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Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

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TheMustressMhor · 12/01/2020 10:15

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

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ShatnersWig · 12/01/2020 13:25

Grace Kelly handled it all so much better.

Happysummer2020 · 12/01/2020 13:26

I'm curious about the binding status of this agreement that is reached with the RF. Will it effectively be under contract law... enforceable in UK plus Canada or just UK?

If challenged in courts would a ruling ever be made against the RF by a UK judge?

Or, would it just be a 'gentlemans agreement" with Prince Charles pulling funding of it was breached?

So many questions...

Wheresthebeach · 12/01/2020 13:27

Just read that MM said in their African documentary that she was 'existing, not living'.

I didn't watch the programme but if she said that, in a documentary about Africa, its genuinely shocking. How insanely self centered is that?

Lllot5 · 12/01/2020 13:27

@Wineloffa
That’s exactly what I said about being on holiday.
I hope they’ll both be happy I genuinely do, but I think the press will have a field day with this and it will get worse, before it gets better. (If it ever does)

WineOrGinOrBoth · 12/01/2020 13:29

There are red flags all over their relationship- she’s ostracised from most of her family. She’s now isolated her husband from his? Common denominator? Meghan. She knows exactly what’s she’s doing.

SerenDippitty · 12/01/2020 13:30

According to Wikipedia the year long courtship of Prince Rainier and Grace Kelly contained "a good deal of rational appraisal on both sides". Not sure Harry and Meghan’s did.

MrsBrentford · 12/01/2020 13:31

I don’t think Grace Kelly had a very happy marriage either tbf.

EmeraldShamrock · 12/01/2020 13:33

@yomommasmomma I don't agree with the press hounding her, though it is no different to the media around Kate early in their relationship, the commoner.
I believe it probably will finish the Queen off.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 12/01/2020 13:33

Agree @Dongdingdong

I'm always a bit Hmm at people who don't seem to understand that other people value and are interested in other things that they themselves are not. I'm not just fussed, can take or leave them but do you honestly believe your view is the only one, to the point where you're snorting your tea out of your nose? I remember visiting Canada a few years ago just after William and Kate took George there. Every Canadian person I spoke to on hearing my accent soon turned the convo round to the royal visit with many referring to George as if he was a beloved child/grandchild "the little fella!" "How cute is that little guy?!" When I told some of them I only live two km from Kensington Palace they were Shock and couldn't ask enough questions about how much I got to see them...answer:- never.

I used to be in the army too as was my Dad. During that time I met Princess Margaret (yes I am that old), Princess Anne and the Queen Mother. The huge pomp and ceremony and intense labour that goes into pulling those visits off has to be seen to be believed. People are excited and work hard for the visits. In my experience military people mostly value and support the royals and the royals are very engaged with their regiments.

There are whole different worlds besides yours cynical MNetters. Where the royals are beloved. So arrogant to snigger and proclaim it nonsensical just because it's not inside your narrow sphere of life.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 12/01/2020 13:33

No one seemed to give a shit about him being isolated from his maternal grandmother though.

Funny that. Royal in laws are expected to distance themselves from their own families. They are supposed to spend every xmas with the Royals, for example. and there was huge criticism because K and W spent lots of time with the Middletons.

time4chocolate · 12/01/2020 13:36

The American forum I am on are positively vitriolic re MM. Not harry, just her

I was thinking about this earlier as the comments that I have seen (but it’s only a few) are not siding with MM. I know the US on the whole have a fondness for the royal family but I wonder if it’s more for the queen and lessens as you go down the line?

By jumping ship in the way they have I do wonder, in terms of capitalising on their titles (if that is what they are planning to do) whether they have made another bad misjudgement. I really can’t believe that PH would be comfortable doing that either.

And that Disney premier is just Shock and Blush

bohemia14 · 12/01/2020 13:36

I heard a soldier talking on a radio programme today. He said that he was very disappointed in Harry and he and colleagues would struggle to salute Harry as leader of their regiment as their loyalty is to Queen and country and he felt that Harry had disrespected the Queen. He also said that soldiers do not have the opportunity to have other jobs when it suits them so why should Harry.

He sounded genuinely disappointed and let down by a soldier and person he liked and admired.

colouringinpro · 12/01/2020 13:37

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zafferana · 12/01/2020 13:38

Every time we go on holidays, DH and I fantasise about not coming back. Jacking in our jobs, selling the house, buying a little coffee shop by the beach to get away from it all.. obviously we never do. We always come home and get on with it!

This whole Canada thing smacks of this! They were having such a marvelous time on Vancouver Island, they decided to stay for good.

Don't forget too that Canada is where they got together and had six months of getting to know each other before the press got wind of their relationship. Canada is their 'happy place', their safe space away from prying eyes. They've just had six weeks there in complete seclusion, which will have reinforced that view.

I can't help feeling the wheels will come off their relationship though once the reality of their new life - particularly for Harry - becomes clear. Right now I think he's desperate to get away from his family, the expectations, the press, and the hierarchy that places him firmly behind his brother. But how long before a) Meghan gets bored of him and b) he misses his life in the UK, his family and friends, everything he knows? He's never lived in the US/Canada and I'm willing to bet that once the excitement of 'We've done it, we've escaped!' has worn off, it won't be quite as great as he'd hoped. He's lived in a protected bubble his whole life so far ...

bohemia14 · 12/01/2020 13:38

I was with a group of Americans when the news broke. Not one of them had anything positive to say about Harry and Meghan. They were shocked at their disrespectful treatment of the Queen.

I still can't get over them using the term 'collaborate' with reference to their future relationship with the Queen.

The80sweregreat · 12/01/2020 13:39

To be fair to Grace Kelly the Internet wasn't around back then. I did read that they didn't have a very happy marriage either, but I have no idea if that is true or not.

Whatever is written by journalists in the Daily Mail and other newspapers pales are into nothing when you read the comments that are allowed to be printed below each article and not moderated on the internet (and on other forums too , I guess)
I would like to think they don't read any of those as some are just vile : keyboard warriors with nothing better to do than make up horrible comments and speculation about people they have probably never met. Grace Kelly and others didn't have to put up with any of that , even if people might have thought it.

The language is dodgy too ' steely eyed Queen' ( she didn't look any different to any other picture of her driving a car)
' sombre Queen goes to church' she looked alright to me. A normal picture of her going to mass.
It's all manipulation to rile the masses and appears to be working. Even I'm on a forum talking about them when they have no real impact on my life at all and I've never seen them or met them. I don't envy any of them either.

notmoresheep · 12/01/2020 13:40

I’m inclined to go with Ninaki Priddy’s POV. The engagement “I didn’t know who he is” was so obviously bullshit.

Relative unknown to global sleb was always the goal, she’s a Hollywood actress. Its maybe come as a shock that the reality isn’t remotely like Downton, but actors have to be a thick skinned lot and know there is always negative press, Meghan is no exception. does anyone genuinely believe she wants to step back to avoid the attention?

There may well be a prenup but if not it won’t be because MM refused to sign. More likely they’re unnecessary, assets belong to the RF as an entity rather than to individuals. Harry’s main wealth will likely be tied up in royal trusts, he won’t have an account at Santander with a £35 million balance. Just like Frogmore isn’t ‘their’ house, they couldn’t sell it on Rightmove, it belongs to the crown estates which sort of belongs to the nation. Its atrocious that so much public money has been spaffed on the house given they don’t even wish to live there but hopefully the money was paid to British tradespeople who did the work on it, so went back into the economy somehow.

I can see why so many people are angry, she was mainly welcomed and in return has rejected our entire nation. And he’s won upper class twit of the year before 2020 has even got going.

Sussex Royal my arse.

astralweaks · 12/01/2020 13:42

Yes, the word “collaborate” was not offered by Prince Harry. Work it out.

Butterymuffin · 12/01/2020 13:42

Really is a pity they couldn't agree to have them take one or two years as a 'sabbatical' where they'd get to do their own 'normal life' living somewhere out of the way but with the understanding that they'd come back to full time duties later. Like Kate and William living in Anglesey, or the Queen in Malta as a newlywed.

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2020 13:42

I would like to think they don't read any of those as some are just vile

I’m almost certain they don’t.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/01/2020 13:43

The Disney thing ! Blimey. That makes Harry look a complete and utter idiot, so embarrassing to watch. What on earth was he thinking ? They have millions of pounds and their every whim is taken care of, and yet he is there, touting for a gig for his wife. Ugggh.

Butterymuffin · 12/01/2020 13:44

Why did Grace Kelly marry Rainer then? Was the life of a princess with someone she didn't love so much more appealing than a gradually fading stardom?

astralweaks · 12/01/2020 13:45

Wheresthebeach

Its really not very feminist to have your hubby pitch to get you work.

Indeed. Interestingly, she appears to be standing within earshot but obviously too engrossed in the conversation she is having, to listen in...

SirVixofVixHall · 12/01/2020 13:45

Agree with notmoresheep

astralweaks · 12/01/2020 13:48

A normal picture of her going to mass.

The Queen certainly wasn’t going to mass! GrinErm...she’s a Protestant.