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Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

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TheMustressMhor · 12/01/2020 10:15

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

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ManonBlackbeak · 12/01/2020 13:01

Prince Philip will die in the next 4 years and Meghan will get the blame for it

I actually said this yesterday. If anything happens to the Queen or Prince Philip the press will blame Harry and Meghan for it. Even thought they are both very elderly, and to be blunt very elderly people die. Thats just a fact of life, but you can see it coming.

yomommasmomma · 12/01/2020 13:02

Sorry but those saying it's not an issue with the press, have they seen the pictures I just posted? When Kate does it, it's fine, Meghan does the same thing and its outrageous!!!

astralweaks · 12/01/2020 13:06

She expected the Queen to ask her if she was “okay”. Obv

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 12/01/2020 13:06

Those photos have already been posted and discussed @yomommasmomma.

LordOfTheWhys · 12/01/2020 13:07

I've seen not only those photos but all the articles and wider context. They weren't the same. Just as M didn't have all the waity-katy headlines or the articles about Kate's 'colourful' uncle. Or the articles about Mike Tindal before and after he married Zara. It's what happens when you marry into the RF. But, I will say again, most celebs, politicians, royals, don't read their own press. They have staff for that. And no staff member is going to feed those stories back. There is absolutely no need.

astralweaks · 12/01/2020 13:09

ManonBlackbeak

Aside from the speculation about people dying, surely you can appreciate that this thoroughly awful situation, on top of the Prince Andrew one, must be pretty hard for elderly people to cope with.

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2020 13:09

The media have sat on lots of stories about them (as they do with all the RF).

The cringeworthy video of Harry accosting that Disney guy presumably being just one of them!

Wheresthebeach · 12/01/2020 13:11

Its really not very feminist to have your hubby pitch to get you work.

AutumnRose1 · 12/01/2020 13:11

yomma

yes, the direct comparisons with avocados and one shoulder dresses is very striking indeed!

strictlymomdancing · 12/01/2020 13:12

I think they are blackmailing the RF and using the likes of Tom Bradbry and leaks to the Sun to do it. They are threatening to do a tell all interview for example. Its all very horrible.
Canada is the better place for them to stay because its in the commonwealth and they could keep some royal duties. Plus Meghan has friends there.
The Disney thing is awful. They were there in their royal roles, not to try to get business. The Disney exec was definitely put on the spot. He could hardly say 'no' could he? And I read that only 5% of the payment is actually going to charity - the rest stays within their 'foundation' so they say.
They need to give up their titles so they can't monetise them. And there is the whole issue of paying taxes, carbon footprint etc.
It's interesting what a PP speculated about H&M marriage falling apart and this is a last ditch effort to save it.
I personally think Meghan knew what she was doing all along. She wanted the title and status but none of the responsibility.
It remains to be seen which side wins now and just how good the RF aides and legal team are. I really want to see H&M slapped down. It would not be before time.

yomommasmomma · 12/01/2020 13:13

Ah sorry for doubling up posting them again! I was so shocked and saddened by them.

thekaiserswife · 12/01/2020 13:14

That Disney pitch was embarrassing to watch!

A reminder of how entitled and, quite frankly, not very bright PH is.

Snorted tea out my nose when someone ridiculously referred to him as a national treasure. Ha!

Good riddance to the both of them. Maybe she can flog her ridiculously expensive engagement dress (x3 average UK national wage) to live off for a while. Insensitive and entitled woman.

LaMarschallin · 12/01/2020 13:14

I've seen the pictures too.
I think it might have been difficult to find as many of Kate fondling her bump as of Meghan.

Certainly, the one arm above and one arm below the bump posture looked odd and posed.

Maybe it's just the way the photos were taken.

I've never seen it IRL - mothers certainly do support their bump, stroke it etc
But framing it with their arms?

Mind you, I had my children pre-instagram and didn't do the little "love heart" shape with my fingers in front of my bump either.

ElspethFlashman · 12/01/2020 13:16

I'm starting to think the woman's a bloody genius.

She's gonna get everything she ever wanted.

Harry's not, he's gonna get a bit fucked over, but he's been outclassed from day one. But then he's clearly a truculent paranoid person who is easy to play.

Fuzzyhair89 · 12/01/2020 13:16

@astralweaks agree. Feel bad for the queen and the shit her kids have put her through. All the playing around with Charles and a messy divorce. Death of his wife. Then Andrew and fergie got divorced. Now Andrew is supposed to be a dirty man. Then Harry finally marries and decides he doesn't want to bring up Archie with George, Charlotte and Louie. Archie is going to be massively isolated from his grandparents and aunts and uncles. I know families don't see eachother all the time but it's not realistic to stay close. When Archie starts school in America he will have to attend and therefore they will be even more limited to when they can bring him over here. I think Harry should of waited a couple of years and not rushed into this. In the grand scheme Meghan's only been around a few years. His family are who have been with him from day one.

That said I think he needs therapy. He seems convinced Meghan is headed the same way as his mum. I mean why does he fear that? His mum died in a crash with no seatbelt on. Tragic but she wasn't making the best choices back then.

Alsohuman · 12/01/2020 13:17

It remains to be seen which side wins now

There are no winners. A family rift, an estranged son, grandson and brother and a marriage hurtling towards its end in less than two years. Ultimately a little boy shuttled backwards and forwards across the Atlantic and two different cultures. Everyone’s a loser.

LaurieMarlow · 12/01/2020 13:17

Maybe she can flog her ridiculously expensive engagement dress (x3 average UK national wage) to live off for a while

I don’t understand all the frothing about that either.

She didn’t have a clothes allowance at the time.

Either she paid for it herself or it was a gift.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 12/01/2020 13:18

I'm trying to remember if I ever did the over and under double cradle of either of my bumps. I even just tried it out on my not pregnant but still rather large stomach. It felt totally unnatural. I do remember hoisting my bump up from underneath with both arms at times though as it stopped my back from hurting so much by taking the weight on my arms. I'm sure that might have looked off too so what do I know?

Butterymuffin · 12/01/2020 13:18

Reckon Charles has put Fiona Shackleton on standby yet?

LaurieMarlow · 12/01/2020 13:19

Archie is going to be massively isolated from his grandparents and aunts and uncles

No one seemed to give a shit about him being isolated from his maternal grandmother though.

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2020 13:19

Snorted tea out my nose when someone ridiculously referred to him as a national treasure.

Why? He was a national treasure before all this kicked off. He was voted the second most popular royal after the Queen and the public have always held a lot of affection for him since those harrowing images of him walking behind Diana’s coffin. Many people wanted to see him settle down and start a family in the same way William did.

beanaseireann · 12/01/2020 13:20

ElspethFlashman
I think you may be right.

zafferana · 12/01/2020 13:21

There are some interesting articles in the papers today saying that Prince Harry has been unhappy for a long time. Diana made a point of raising her boys the same with no focus on William as the future king and she was apparently warned that that would lead to trouble down the line. In the past few years, William has taken on a more formal role and the hierarchy in the royal household has been clearer, with Harry clearly behind William in the pecking order, something that wasn't that obvious before, and this has apparently been irking him for ages and building up to some kind of showdown. The splitting of the royal foundation/'fab four' and him moving his office from Kensington Palace to Buckingham Palace now looks like a clear precursor to this more serious split.

The other thing I read was that Meghan has not settled in the UK and is just not happy and I can believe that. I lived in the US for six years and didn't feel at home there until around the five-year mark and that was without the press attention that she's been dealing with. I think unless you've lived in both countries you can't appreciate how very different they are to live in - as a visitor/tourist I certainly didn't understand how very different they are. Of course, now Harry will be the one dealing with that culture shock - I wonder if he'll be any happier in Canada/the US than Meghan was here?

Chocpear · 12/01/2020 13:22

I don’t know whether this has been posted. It’s an article by a press standards campaigner examining the key details in MM lawsuit against Associated Newspapers. The campaigner claims their stepping back from the Royal Family is due to the dishonesty of certain areas of the press. www.bylineinvestigates.com/mail/2020/1/10/kv913pun97mbewgk1hodcipttt1wfj?format=amp&__twitter_impression=true

I think the lying by some of these newspapers is vile as they do influence public opinion and on v important matters such as UK’s membership of the EU. I welcome any efforts for raising press standards and I am glad when individuals sue papers for outright lies.

What we will never know is if these papers hadn’t peddled such lies would MM and PH have been happy in their role as senior members of the Royal Family? It will be interesting to see what role they carve out for themselves in the following few years overseas.

Butterymuffin · 12/01/2020 13:22

Said this on an earlier thread but, useful as it might have been to wait a couple of years, age and fertility weighed against that. Given that they'd both said they wanted children, there simply wasn't time to hang about.

@Alsohuman - very true and a sobering thought. No one comes out well, least of all Archie.