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Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

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TheMustressMhor · 12/01/2020 10:15

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

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Rosehip10 · 12/01/2020 11:32

Will be separated within the year.

Getitwright · 12/01/2020 11:32

They are going to need lots of protection. PH has military combat history, that’s an open book for revenge tactics of some of the crackpot regimes out there. Slimming down the Royal security/staff didn’t work out well for Princess Diana, but I’m blowed if taxpayers here should foot the extra security requirements for this shambles.
It hasn’t been handled well, and he does seem trapped by his birth circumstances, so I do have some sympathy. My impression is that he’s easily led, obviously got issues, but trying to look after his wife and child. Hope things work out for them.

Alsohuman · 12/01/2020 11:33

towards a woman who protects her pedophile/dictator-loving son from the force of the law

This is based on what exactly? There’s been no suggestion that he’s been investigated, let alone charged, in connection with any crime. What more could the Queen do than strip him of his Royal duties? Lock him up in the Tower? For what? I think she’s made a pretty clear statement, as a pp said actions speak louder than words.

Nanasueathome · 12/01/2020 11:33

What surprises me is the fact that they returned from Canada (no media mention that Archie remained there) and that they laughed and smiled at meetings at the Hubb kitchen and the Canadian Embassy yet all the time they both knew what was coming and that Meghan would be on the plane back to Canada before the end of the day

DuchessofWoke · 12/01/2020 11:33

I'm afraid I don't buy it that she's a defenceless victim. She's just not having anyone tell her what to do or call her on bad behaviour. She knows telling Harry she's at breaking point over 'the British press' will of course have him doing anything to protect her. Even giving up his own family and his amazing work with people here. He's a genuine altruist with huge empathy and was such an asset to the Royal family. She's given him no choice. It is her and his son or his family and his working life as a Royal

Of course he chooses his own little family. But the strain is showing. And I will be so bold as to say I actually think she has, consciously or not, manipulated him by putting pressure where it hurts him most. By saying the press and life here endangers her and Alfie. And that is unforgivable, and a very bad sign for Harry's future

I'm dreadfully sorry for him. Again. And for all the people who would have gained strength and joy from being around him. She's taking away a national treasure. It's unbelievably sad

Reposting this from the end of the previous thread because I think it sums up how I feel today.

EmeraldShamrock · 12/01/2020 11:36

I feel sorry for the Queen. The photo of her driving her Range rover she looked wore out. Though an inspirational lady cruising along at 93y.o.
You'd think they'd keep Instagram quiet until the dust settles.

Bluntness100 · 12/01/2020 11:39

I personally think harry is in a difficult position. Because they have a child and he will do what it takes to make sure he raises that child. He won't let Archie go. He would never have opted to cash in on his position and be a celeb. If it wasn't for Archie I'm not sure the marriage would have lasted.

Meghan was a successful actress, but by marrying Harry she's now globally famous and can have her pick of roles. She can make a fortune from it and be famous on her terms doing exactly what she wishes. Harry either enables it or he ends up divorced and in a bitter custody battle.

Archie will be raised in Canada and schooled there. They will all live there permanently and come back to the uk for less than ninety days a year (due to tax).

Mominatrix · 12/01/2020 11:39

Why these two think that they will get an easier ride from a North American tabloid press baffles me, particularly as Meghan really should know better. Perhaps because she was not an A list (of even B list) star prior to meeting Harry, Meghan did not experience the hounding and lies which the tabloid press churn out daily. I remember the daily slander which Jennifer Anniston received, and still continues to (!) about the Angelina Joie/Brad Pitt thing. They will have a field day with the Sussex's. Also, no protection regarding photographing children in the US where the UK will obscure the faces of the children of celebrities. Harry is in for a big shock.

CathyorClaire · 12/01/2020 11:40

Have just watched the video. Poor Bob Iger. Looks like he wants the ground to swallow him up.

I'm not surprised at the blatant blagging though. The RF have form for this dating back years. Yachts, villas, holidays. Why not jobs?

TheMustressMhor · 12/01/2020 11:40

I'm not sure that this dust will ever settle EmeraldShamrock.

This is the story which just keeps giving.

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ElspethFlashman · 12/01/2020 11:43

To me Bob Iger looked really suprised but that was swiftly followed by "KA-CHIINNNNNGGGG!"

He left that event wondering how to tie her in for a 5 year deal.

Fraggot · 12/01/2020 11:47

I think tomorrow’s meeting will result in a vague statement, such as ‘the couple will be taking a break from royal duties to focus on their family but will continue their charitable endeavours’.

This will allow them to be in the US, keep their titles, receive public funding and MM to carry out celeb work like the voice over thing as long as some of the fee is donated to charity.

There’s no way Canada or the US would be stupid enough to fund them, it’ll be left to us.

EmeraldShamrock · 12/01/2020 11:47

I believe harry is stuck too. He has to lose his brother etc or son.
Even their engagement chat was cringe, staring into his eyes longingly, watching his lips move intensely, it was so intense it almost looked like a role in a romantic movie. Grin

campion · 12/01/2020 11:51

She's taking away a national treasure. It's unbelievably sad

National treasure? Don't be daft.

Parker231 · 12/01/2020 11:52

@EmeraldShamrock - why does he have to loose his brother or son? What evidence do you have that his relationship with his brother has been damaged?

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 12/01/2020 11:56

Perhaps they should have caught on to the fact that the press might keep stories in reserve and not been so obviously pushing their agenda in public. Hmm?
Or perhaps the press just weren't going to print it. Hmm?

^This.

In fact had they published this video the day after the premiere there would have been justifiable questions raised about their intentions and exploiting their position.

yellowapples987 · 12/01/2020 12:00

Meghan couldn't cope living in the UK, so she wants to move Harry to Canada? Who does he know there? He'll be away from his entire family. Whether you like the RF or not, Harry has always been close to his brother and Kate, Dad, Zara and Mike, Beatrice and Eugenie etc.
By all accounts, Meghan has no contact whosoever with family, except her Mum.
Despite having Aunts and uncles she hadn't fallen out with, she only invited her Mum to their wedding. Which is weird, however you want to look at it. She had no family to miss by moving to the UK, but Harry will miss a very large, supportive family network.
I think they'll stick it out till Archie starts school and then Harry will be back here, single again.

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2020 12:05

In the Bradby documentary in the autumn Harry was making strong hints they’d move to Africa (which I thought was never going to happen) to continue their work. What happened??

I thought he said they’d love to move to Africa but in practice it could be difficult for them. I assumed when he said that he was referring to security issues etc.

In fact had they published this video the day after the premiere there would have been justifiable questions raised about their intentions and exploiting their position.

It’s a shame they didn’t!

PineappleDanish · 12/01/2020 12:05

There's so much wrong with the whole situation that I'm not sure where to even start.

Maybe they are really in love. Who knows. Their personal relationship is entirely their own business.

However, marrying into the Royals isn't like marrying some random bloke off the street. Even if it can be argued that Meghan didn't know what she was getting into, Harry most certainly did. He's grown up in it, and has seen other people like Kate marrying into the family. He knows what's expected. Now either he's not explained that properly to Meghan, or she's been all "yeah yeah whatever, we'll work it out".

And now, less than 2 years later, she's out. All this "we'll split our time between the UK and North America" - rubbish. They have moved their dogs to Canada. The baby is in Canada. They clearly intend Canada as their main residence with wee trips back to the UK as and when. Well, Harry making trips back with Meghan staying right where she is.

That's all fine, their lives, their choice. BUT. They cannot choose to lead that sort of life, still receive taxpayers' money and still call themselves Duke and Duchess. Doesn't work. They want to be free to earn their own living but they just can't as they are not ordinary people. It's all so tacky - buy the Duchess's favourite brand of clothing! Here's the Duke in the new Jaguar advert!

I used to have a lot of respect for Harry speaking out over the mental health stuff and he came across as a decent guy who had had a rough childhood. But now? No sympathy. And yes, I do blame Meghan for a lot of it.

EmeraldShamrock · 12/01/2020 12:06

@Parker231
There are many signs their relationship is damaged.
www.bbc.com/news/uk-50154033
I'm surprised they didn't wait a few hours maybe a day with their insta announcement, throw it out there on Kate's actually birthday and not the day before.

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2020 12:07

Now either he's not explained that properly to Meghan, or she's been all "yeah yeah whatever, we'll work it out".

In their engagement interview Harry did say that he’d warned her and tried to prepare her about what life would be like.

Parker231 · 12/01/2020 12:08

So you’ve no evidence - just something you read online? We have no idea what has and hasn’t happened.

Bluntness100 · 12/01/2020 12:08

What evidence do you have that his relationship with his brother has been damaged

Eh, this isn't judge rinder. It's mumsnet, 🤣

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 12/01/2020 12:11

National treasure? Don't be daft

But to many he is. You've only to see the crowds that turn out for them. The efforts that army regiments go to when they're hosting a royal visit. The delight when he stops for a word with people on the crowd. Not the average cynical MNetter obviously but to many the royals are loved. Sneer all you like but it's true.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 12/01/2020 12:12

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