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Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

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TheMustressMhor · 12/01/2020 10:15

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

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The80sweregreat · 13/01/2020 10:09

I don't agree this thread is sad at all! It's just the general public on an anonymous forum having a say about a family that works for the public. I think it's been a fair debate really.

crispysausagerolls · 13/01/2020 10:09

I don’t think it reflects poorly on Kate at all that she has had to stand by William. I mean her son belongs to the crown: what’s she going to do? And she is a consummate professional - she’s not going to cause massive rifts is she? This isn’t like Colleen Rooney staying for money, it’s much bigger than that.

None of this justifies Harry being such an epic shower of cunts though.

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 10:09

The latest is that it's unlikely that M will be dialling in as the meeting is to take 3 hours.

It's more likely that Harry will go outside to phone her as things are discussed to get her view privately before continuing.

AlternativePerspective · 13/01/2020 10:10

Anyone can say “oh I know someone on the inside who knows x and says” and then go on to make up some far-out piece of gossip about someone.

Suggestions made about William above are slanderous at best. I don’t believe a word of it tbh but either way no-one will ever likely know.

halcyondays · 13/01/2020 10:10

I find this strange, if the royals’ work is in the diary months in advance, how come they seem to have no forthcoming engagements except a rugby thing for Harry in a day or two?

Supposedly they were coming back from their break in Canada to resume their working duties before all this kicked off?

DarkOceanWater · 13/01/2020 10:11

Harry is in a complete no win situation- no wonder he looks completely miserable. Backs his wife loses his family and the respect of the British public and his aristo peers. Back the family he loses his wife and potentially a good relationship with his son. No wonder he is scrambling for some kind of halfway house.

Wheresthebeach · 13/01/2020 10:13

That's a good point halcyondays

cripsysausagerolls · 13/01/2020 10:14

alternativeperspective

Of course they can. I did try to preface my comment with that - I’m sure loads of people do that online: I mean I know that that’s not what I’m doing. But if people don’t want to believe me that’s fine! I mean my friend could be lying to me but I highly, highly doubt it. I know quite a few other things but they aren’t relevant here.

I think the proof was in her reaction to him touching her. But believe what you like of course!

(Not slanderous because it’s true)

PastelRainbows · 13/01/2020 10:17

Eight months into being a mother I was not necessarily thinking clearly about my future plans.

Me neither! I would not have made good long term decisions. This is where it helps to have a supportive family around, people who will be kind but straight talking with you.

Absolutely!! Another thread was deleted for speculating about PND, but I find it 100% plausible and ironically offensive as it just heightens the stigma around PND. It's perfectly ok to say "X celeb's behaviour was strange because they were suffering from a cold or virus that day" but not ok to (compassionately) speculate that someone might be behaving irrationally due to PND which statistically affects a huge number of women?! It increases the pressure that women should be nothing but glowing, happy mothers after birth and should forever be held 100% responsible for the decisions they make during what is obviously the "happiest time of their life" Hmm

At 8 months I was also in the grips of PND and contemplated the most outlandish scenarios which seemed like the only option AT THE TIME which would make me feel better. I thought of running away from my husband & family to a different town, selling my flat or renting it out, then downsizing into a small, cosy place with just my daughter and a maybe a nanny. Basically, I wanted to be alone with my baby and far from my old life which seems exactly what Meghan is doing...only she had the balls to pull it off.

With all respect and I think many women with PND will agree compassionately, you do not make rational decisions in the year after having your first baby. I gave myself a deadline of 18 months (summer 2020) and if I still felt the same by that time then I would make those drastic changes to my life. And somehow around 10-12 months, the fog lifted and I feel like old self before pregnancy again. I'm slightly aghast the stuff I thought about and very grateful that I didn't do something impulsive like end my marriage or move out during that time.

BovaryX · 13/01/2020 10:18

I feel very sorry for Prince Harry. If the rumours are true, those responsible for creating a hostile environment for him and his wife are to blame for this situation and it's understandable that MM was unprepared for it.

Antibles · 13/01/2020 10:19

What irks me is the way H&M seem to have completely conflated the British tabloid press with the British public which is rather offensive.

There has always been a lot of goodwill for them among the public. As seen by turnout to Royal-attended events, they had the capability to bring a bit of excitement and even genuine delight everywhere they went in the UK, daily.

They seem to be ignoring that in favour of paying attention to nothing but tabloid bletherings, and now the entire British public, you and me included, is being painted globally as unwelcoming racists. Thanks a bunch.

AlternativePerspective · 13/01/2020 10:19

(Not slanderous because it’s true) only in your opinion. If it isn’t true, and you don’t know for a fact that it isn’t, then it’s slanderous.

ajandjjmum · 13/01/2020 10:20

She's played a blinder, in terms of following her own script.

Just a pity that every time she performs, it's so obvious she's acting.

If the RF do come to an agreement with them, surely it will be on the basis of them signing an NDA - although it's tragic that it's come to that.

OxfordCat · 13/01/2020 10:20

@GlitchStich Please can you get this into your head- you are right that you not liking MM does not make you racist. But no-one is accusing you of that. What people are saying is the coverage in the PRESS has been racist! Please can you stop glossing over and dismissing the blindingly obvious overt and covert racist undertones to the media coverage, particularly from the Mail.

It is possible to dislike MM intensely whilst also accepting she has experienced unacceptable racism from the press.

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 10:20

It is perfectly sensible that Meghan and Harry want to go to Canada away from the vitriol of the press and some of the public. The one thing that might have kept them here, Harry's relationship with William, appears to have been damaged by William's affair.

MrsBrentford · 13/01/2020 10:20

Antibes

Yes pisses me off too - because it’s not true.

crispysausagerolls · 13/01/2020 10:21

Ok, then allow me to retrospectively add “allegedly” or “a source close to the couple has revealed...”

mrscampbellblackagain · 13/01/2020 10:21

I never thought she would be able to dial in - way too risky that she would have other people listening in or record it.

kirinm · 13/01/2020 10:21

God the vitriol on these threads. If anything said about the family disliking her is true then I don't blame her for wanting to leave and I can see why Harry would want to leave too. Hardly rocket science is it?

crispysausagerolls · 13/01/2020 10:22

Just a pity that every time she performs, it's so obvious she's acting

THIS!!! How do people not see it?!

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 10:23

If an ordinary person posted on here saying that their inlaws were frosty to them, and in the village they lived in they experienced a lot of hostility and covert racism, they would be being told to move.

Weedsnseeds1 · 13/01/2020 10:24

I don't think USA recognises dual citizenship does it?

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 10:25

Acting? You mean in front of the cameras beamed to thousands or millions of strangers you do not act the same way as if you are in front of your DP only?
Because I wouldn't. No picking my nose, being very careful not to pull a face or look bored. You do know that is what normal people do?

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 10:25

But her father in law was not frosty! He walked her down the aisle FFS!

And William and Kate had them to stay for Christmas!

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 10:27

Yes William and Harry and Kate used to be very friendly, until William's affair.
And my FIL was friendly to me in public, but horrified at our marriage.