Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

[TheMustressMhor]

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

I'm another one who thinks she will end up in politics. She ticks all the right boxes...she's dual heritage, charismatic and extremely photographic and has pinned feminism as her pet cause (like 99.9 % of all high profile women in acting or politics, whether their lives really reflect it or not) plus she's a good speaker and her short stint as a supporting commonwealth ambassador visiting dignitaries all over the world, has been a great education. She also has playing the victim down to a pat.

Yes I think she is looking at the Obamas (are either of them Archies Godparents?) as inspiration and the Clinton Foundation. The idea to set up their own foundation on the back of private donations and commerce didn't pop out of thin air.

How does a foundation differ from any other charity? Or is it just the good cause name du jour?

There seem to have suddenly been a few videos leaked that don't show them in a great light- the Disney one, as well as one of Meghan literally walking in front of Harry whilst he is mid conversation and interrupting him to introduce herself to the people he's talking to. Are these things the press have been holding back and now the gloves are off?

@GlitchStitch

I think the Press have had a look through their miles of footage for anything which does not show MM in a good light.

Mind you - they don't seem to have had to look very far...

@Butterymuffin

As I understand it (very simplistically) a foundation allows a private person or business to invest and raise money as a not-for-profit and then disperse these funds as grants to various charities that fit with the overarching aims and vision of the foundation or create it's own programs (but it must include specific types of charitable work such as poverty relief). The downside is that Foundations can sponsor some charities or endeavors and accept donations from people that are decidedly dodgy if they want, as they are private entities and less accountable.

Charities raise money directly from public funds, are more accountable and more specific in focus.

The potential problems are funding a lot of initiatives and losing sight of whether some of them really do what you have given them the money for (and don't use it for something else entirely or waste it) and potentially receiving money from dodgy individuals. I'm judging this by the Clinton Foundation which has been associated with both pitfalls.

I also believe a Foundation can pay its "employees" founders rather handsome salaries....

After reading another story from someone who knows Meghan very well, I stand by my opinion of her being a hustler, however I think they should both be allowed to step down and concentrate on their family. Whatever happens I wish them both well, especially Prince Harry, all the wealth and privilege he has will never bring his mother back.

@DeRigueurMortis There's that added benefit, yes......

Yes agree with orangelindt

(and your name is dangerous - I now want an orange Lindt bar!!! 😂)

Wtf will they do when Trump gets re-elected? That'll put the LA plans on hold for another 5 years!!

Bradby must be burning his bridges with the Cambridgeshire. Not clever, given who they are...

Duh, Cambridges.

But Orange that's the point.

They don't want to "step down" or concentrate on their family - they want to build a global brand.

All this rubbish about stepping down as "senior royals" is a smokescreen.

They want to keep their titles, grace and favour housing, security and funding from the Duchy of Cornwall (which itself is the beneficiary of many tax breaks - including no inheritance tax at the taxpayers expense) whilst refusing to do any royal duties (other than those that appeal) and use their Royal status to build their own personal wealth.

I don't think anyone on these threads would say anything other than "good luck and go well" if their aim was to step away from the spotlight and become private individuals.

However that's the opposite of what they are striving for. They want a very public global role, on their terms, funded by the tax payer, using their public office for private financial gain/glory.

I haven’t RTFT because there’s a billion posts and I can’t be bothered.

But all the ‘oh she knew what she was getting into and now she can’t handle it’ posts really blow my mind!

Are women never allowed to change their minds? Should we stay somewhere we are dreadfully unhappy because we ‘knew what we were getting into’? Honestly it reeks of “woman must shut up and do as she’s told”. How many of you claim to be feminists?

Imagine saying that to any other woman.
“Oh you knew your husband liked to drink before you met him, too bad if it’s got to be too much now, suck it up!”
“Oh you agreed to move to another country for your husband, too bad if you don’t like it, you must stay there forever!”
And so on. It’s bloody ridiculous. People are allowed to change their minds.

I couldn’t give two shits about the royal family and it genuinely baffles me why people care so much. Honestly all I see is a woman who married the man she loves, and is now beaten down by the media and all the haters and can’t take it anymore. If she were anyone else posting on MN looking for advice you would all be telling her to run a mile.

The taxpayer argument is also a bit naff unless you also question where every single cent of your tax dollars go. Because I can guarantee there are far more dodgy institutions and policies you’re supporting with your tax dollars than the royal family.

I can’t believe there are literally thousands of posts on this.

Of course women can change their mind and that in itself isn’t in question.

The post above yours explains fairly well why most of us are querying this latest mess.

@vacayonmymind
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THIS!

@CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook, thanks for the helpful info on Foundations. Do Foundations then not collect money from public donations and govt grants?

Poor Harry being coerced by his Missus to ask Bob Iger that question. Harry looks so uncomfortable.

It's reminiscent of someone like Hyacinth Bucket trying to use a situation to climb the social ladder. Although in this case Harry is top of a ladder so this must all be so bizarre for him. He's in love so will do what she wants.

She is like a controlling abusive partner separating her partner away from their family to gain further control yet doing it in the spotlight.

It's fascinating esp as most of us know he will eventually cotton on at some point and cringe and go back to his family who will welcome him with open arms. He looks very controlled and henpecked asking Bob the voice over question, like he's reverted to being a boy all shy and nervous.

Bizarre yet compelling.

Vay - ummm "tax dollars".

Nope it's pounds here and given your reference to US currency I would ask how the American public would feel about financing two already wealthy people in the way H&M are demanding....

By all means feel free to start US crowdfund for them...but tbh it's a bit rich telling people in the UK that it's "naff" to discuss why British taxpayers are displeased that a couple worth tens of millions want to co-opt a public role which we fund for their personal gain.

I have been wanting to try and understand if H and M would earn a personal income from any Foundation they would set up, would they say draw a salary from it?

The article in the link below details what benefits the Clintons get from their Foundation and so gave me some idea what H and M’s role and benefits potentially could be by setting up a Foundation. If they run it as the Clinton’s have theirs they may not draw a salary from the Foundation - they would have salaried staff no doubt for the running of the Foundation - but it would provide benefits for them in other ways including indirectly financially.

Also I realise I have been approaching this all from the assumption that the creation of a Foundation was purely for their gain and unfairly not even considering that they genuinely may have causes they want to support and promote as well.

www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/sep/01/hilary-rosen/democrat-pundit-clintons-get-no-personal-benefit-f/

I've always thought no-one asked Kate how she was when they scheduled a huge wedding, including her older DC for when Louis was only a couple of weeks old.

If they really want a quiet life, out of the spotlight, they have well and truly shot themselves in the foot with how they've handled this.
If, however, they want to make themselves a global brand, they have played a blinder.
Their profile has never been as high as it is right now.

@GlitchStitch
There have been many times M has been photographed walking in front of Harry or more or less pushing him out of the way to introduce herself. He often looks like he’s trailing behind her like a sulky schoolboy . Where has the old Harry gone? The jokey, relatable chap who seemed so full of life? He’s been replaced by a miserable, sullen person who seems completely lost.
I think she is extremely manipulative and out for her own self interest.

LOL.
I am not American.