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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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TheMustressMhor · 10/01/2020 10:56

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

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cathyandclare · 10/01/2020 15:55

Excellent comments from Cabingirl I think fears for the future together with frustrations with with the status quo are as much behind this as the media onslaught.

I think they both genuinely thought they could 'hit the ground running' and make a huge difference to projects they hold dear- but the protocol and the Royal pecking order have made it challenging.

I think the funding issue is more about not having the media/social media/ British public complaining about their expenditure, rather than the wish to earn squillions ( though I'm sure that comes into it too.)

StarbucksSmarterSister · 10/01/2020 15:56

I think the nation should boo them wherever they go now.

Don't be ridiculous.

Alsohuman · 10/01/2020 15:59

They currently have an income of £2.5 million from the Duchy of Cornwall, which according to The Times Charles is considering withdrawing. No way will the interest on £34 million amount to that. And that’s without having to pay for their own security and housing costs. I imagine £34 million is very small beer in the circles they want to move in.

mrscampbellblackagain · 10/01/2020 16:01

I am sure H & M are perfectly nice but this is what happens when you surround yourselves with yes people. Of all people, the RF should know that. Did Harry study no history at eton?

Anyway, it will all work out and we will get to see Meghan looking glamorous in lovely borrowed clothes and jewels and swipe here for the link Wink

mrscampbellblackagain · 10/01/2020 16:02

£34m is a lot but it isn't enough for the lifestyle they want if they don't want to eat away at all their capital.

Harry should have gone on the property ladder when he was in his twenties instead of spending in all on take away coffees and gambling in vegas.

GinDaddy · 10/01/2020 16:03

Well seriously - £34 million would be more than enough for most people.

Agreed...but they're not most people, not even close. Meghan is an inveterate socialite, budding philanthropist, aspiring member of the global elite.

I'm going to do some rough sums but they'll want two homes, staffing for both of them, employing a PR agency on a widened brief and retainer, at least five staff for their global office and foundation, a security detail, flight and transportation budget...

I think their annual costs for running all that will come anywhere from £5million upwards.

So £34million isn't going to do it. It would be fine if they moved to LA, Vancouver, bought a house, did some work from there. But it won't touch the sides for funding the above.

You could live off the interest. It's not as though they need to buy a house, either. They have plenty of property.

Do they? Not of the size and scale they will need in the US to host this stuff. And Frogmore House may be called into question. We don't know yet.

This is just insensate greed.

Yes. Hell yes.

But it's greed hiding under the carapace of philanthrophy, so it's ok.

TheMustressMhor · 10/01/2020 16:03

I imagine £34 million is very small beer in the circles they want to move in.

I don't doubt it. That doesn't mean that their desire for untold riches should not be denigrated, though.

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WineOrGinOrBoth · 10/01/2020 16:08

I hope Charles withdraws their funding. Then they can work to becoming financially independent on their reported £34million.

thekaiserswife · 10/01/2020 16:11

I think all income should be withdrawn and they should be stripped of their titles. They need to stand on their own financially.

However, I do think they should be provided with full security and body guards and not left vulnerable like Diana was. They should be kept safe at all costs but apart from that they should be ignored and left alone.

However, they don't want to be left alone or forgotten, they want to be rich and famous celebrities and use their make to make lots of money. We will never stop hearing about this insufferable couple.

thekaiserswife · 10/01/2020 16:12
  • use their fame
VladmirsPoutine · 10/01/2020 16:13

This is frankly astonishing. Harry was born into that life. Meghan had her own life doing her own thing and was thrust upon this Royal way of being. She found it wasn't for her so exited it. She just can't win. Kate spent 10 years learning how to adjust to it. Prior to William she was just at uni and working for her parents business with no real outward outlook. Meghan isn't the same. She doesn't want that. JFC! A whole 2 threads.

MintyMabel · 10/01/2020 16:16

you expect to continue to draw your substantial salary, live in a free house,

Why is everyone still saying this. Their statement said "financially independent"

I don't think it has ever been a racist issue, but I do think the way Americans say what they think is an issue.

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they have absolutely no intention of relinquishing their fame and status whatsoever

They can't relinquish their fame. The press won't let them. If they don't do their bit there are stories about them. If they do their bit, there are stories about them.

Their status is as senior Royals. They've said they don't want to be that any more.

crispysausagerolls · 10/01/2020 16:16

Kate spent 10 years learning how to adjust to it

Yeh... no one made them
Rush into an engagement followed swiftly by marriage after 6 months living in the country

joyfullittlehippo · 10/01/2020 16:18

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Mollychristmas · 10/01/2020 16:21

Has anyone actually thought that William could be the catalyst in all this?

Maybe he isn’t such a pleasant person as everyone likes to think, he supposedly cheated on his wife during her last pregnancy and birth, possibly even before then with who knows how many women.
Maybe Harry doesn’t want to be beholden to him when he becomes king because actually he isn’t a very nice/fair person and would use his ability to cut Harry off at any point as a power move.

Maybe the Queen orchestrated all of this to make HandM look like the bad guys?

Maybe Prince Charles told them they had to go so the went before they were pushed, preferably more on their terms?

Maybe Megan is an abusive madam that has schemed her way into this close, warm family and separated Harry off (sounds quite unlikely!)

Nobody knows what goes on in the RF and as such we have no idea what’s actually happening.

I think we should just abolish the whole Monarchy and then we wouldn’t have this whole shit show making us look even more foolish (Brexit anyone) to other countries.

VladmirsPoutine · 10/01/2020 16:26

I do think we should do away with the entire monarchy. It's really rather astonishing that AN ACTUAL PRINCE who cavorted with CONVICTED peodos gets less stress than a newly married couple with a kid that just want to do their own thing and not be dictated to by a dying archaic royalty. I would not want to be a professional hand-shaker and ribbon cutter and apparently neither does Harry - who realises his stakes in the senior Royalty would push him further down in the stakes given Kate and William now have 3 kids and his own dad and step mum also have a look in.

IrmaFayLear · 10/01/2020 16:27

Back to the finances, I read on the Sky News website a bit by a brand manager declaring that M&H could very probably pull in $500m in their first year putting their names to this and that.

Meghan is reportedly in the US now talking to fashion houses so once the ball gets rolling they may not need the $34m. I suppose the big question is the security, as that's not just about money but who is responsible. Apparently there are "Eeeek, no, not us!" talks going on between US, Canadian and UK forces.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 10/01/2020 16:29

Or maybe they are just entitled little shits!

Packingsoapandwater · 10/01/2020 16:31

Meghan had her own life doing her own thing and was thrust upon this Royal way of being. She found it wasn't for her so exited it.

Thrust into this Royal way of being? She agreed to marry Prince Harry! It's not like she saved a tiny kitten from a local stream and found herself a global internet meme overnight. Grin

You know, if you do your research, it's pretty clear what being in the Royal Family entails. Saying otherwise is a bit like saying someone was thrust into the life of an MP, even though they personally decided to stand for election. Or thrust into the life of a film star, even though they decided to audition for a huge role.

Amanduh · 10/01/2020 16:33

I wish people would stop saying ‘they just want to leave that family and go it alone.’ Or ‘meghan just wants to not be part of the royals and do her own thing.’
They don’t! They want the titles, the royal ‘brand’ the house and the money. Without the work.
That’s the whole point!

Blitzen2 · 10/01/2020 16:35

I’m genuinely shocked by the amount of hate towards her online since this announcement. Why do people have such a problem believing that their precious prince harry can make his own decisions? Why does she need to get all the blame?

I think they have went about it the wrong way and in trying to create a mystique for themselves it’s backfired badly.

VladmirsPoutine · 10/01/2020 16:37

Without the work.

Oh tell me what's the work? How tedious is it? Attending a few events and shaking some hands then not saying anything meaningful? Oh how tedious that sounds. Imagine having a whole team behind you to look after your kids, style you, tell you exactly what to say and act and you have to do is just... turn up. It must be so so stressful. Oh how awful it must be!

VladmirsPoutine · 10/01/2020 16:39

She agreed to marry Prince Harry! And why not? He's also a man and perhaps wanted to have a family and not be so much a part of the institution. He's had a few girlfriends that looked at the role and thought 'no thanks'. But that doesn't give anyone the green light to be racist and mysognist about his choice of a wife. And she also despite her fame has a right to a life. Some of you are really pathetic.

Bluntness100 · 10/01/2020 16:40

I don't like the abuse either and i don't think it's acceptable for th likes of ealmon Holmes of piers Morgan to use their positions to abuse them. It's trolling of the worst kind and should not be permissible.

The abuse those two men have been hurling at Meghan is beyond sickening.

SerenDippitty · 10/01/2020 16:45

I wish people would stop saying ‘they just want to leave that family and go it alone.’ Or ‘meghan just wants to not be part of the royals and do her own thing.’
They don’t! They want the titles, the royal ‘brand’ the house and the money. Without the work.
That’s the whole point!

Yes. They want to be Royal and to be able to capitalise on being royal but without the boring bits,the restrictions and the obligations hat other senior royals have.

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