Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

[TheMustressMhor]

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

It doesn't matter what we think. Nobody is going to take their titles, Prince Charles will continue to pay (maybe less - I think the new arrangements might have introduced issues regarding tax which will need to be offset) and the Government won't risk their security, the Queen isn't going to remove Archie etc etc. No punishments will be fished out no matter what Piers Morgan calls for.

Brand Sussex is all systems go. And its not about selling within the U.K. - the money is in the US, China, Russia and India.

And even if we did cast them out the combined history of the RF (long term 1066 and short term The People's Princess) and possibilities of spinning a romantic story of the runaway Prince will set them up.

We are irrelevant.

Wrt money - yes £35m is a lot of money.

However, H&M (and other royals) do not enjoy a lifestyle based on their personal fortune.

The lifestyle they enjoy is far in excess of what they could afford as private individuals.

It's not just the money from the sovereign grant, but access to grace and favour houses and security (funded by the taxpayer) plus the connections that allow them to stay (for free) in top hotels or private houses, having friends who will lend their private jet etc.

H&M have cultivated a friendship group of people who are seriously rich. Oprah, Elton, the Clooney's/Beckhams and Serena Williams are worth hundreds of millions.

They can keep up with this lifestyle with the backing the Firm provides but without it their personal wealth isn't going to cut the mustard.

They could live well with what they have but the reality is they have ambitions that exceed their current ability to finance.

Fundamentally that's key to what's happening here. They absolutely have the means to live as independent private individuals but they have champagne aspirations when they can afford sparking water.

Everyone saying they don’t blame H&M for wanting out - that’s not the issue. The issue is the way they’re going about it, the arrogance and lack of respect for his family and the financial arrangements. It’s the details of the split that are causing the tension, not the very idea of wanting to do it.

Exactly Duchess.

Had this been handled appropriately there was potential for nothing but positive feedback for both H&M and the RF.

I don't think anyone doesn't feel sympathy for them wanting to carve out a new and more independent future from the RF but the way they have chosen to do so comes across as entitled, ungrateful and petulant.

In this case it is go woke, not broke!

And why not? He's also a man and perhaps wanted to have a family and not be so much a part of the institution.

Fair enough. If he wanted a life as a private citizen, he could have one. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, so long as he renounced his titles, paid his own way and wasn't a burden on the public purse.

But that does not appear to be what he wants. He wants to retain all the perks of being royal and leverage them to make private income, while also not being subject to the rules and regulations that come with being royal: rules and regulations that are there for political and diplomatic reasons.

Poor Liz, she can’t be arsed with any of this. She’s usually still snaffling the mince pies now.

What I don't understand is if the Queen was 'slimming' down the monarchy, which would essentially have meant they could step down a bit anyway, they had to go and make this big song and dance about resigning etc. They were being made redundant anyway, weren't they? Just don't get it.

Terrible that a girl and a boy say they need to lead life with less stress - I mean how dare they!!

A girl and boy?! One of whom is borderline middle aged. I presume you are being ironic.

My understanding is that it's Charles who has the vision of a slimline monarchy.

However, that was to encompass the monarch and their immediate family.

So no, it wasn't about cutting Harry out of the picture. As the son of the future King he was very much "in".

Rather, what's been reported is that Charles was trying to avoid a monarchy littered with extended family such as the York sisters and he was instrumental in refusing to give them official royal roles.

Wow the degree of speculation and supposition is quite astonishing.

Maybe they didn't go about it in the best way for the RF Maybe this was the only way they could see of achieving what they wanted without years of negotiations with RF, Queen, courriers and government. Maybe they felt that their / one of their mental health wouldn't last that long.

And now I'm speculating so I'll stop.

Good luck to them.

I hope they are stripped of their brand. I really do. They can become HRH Prince Henry of Wales and HRH Princess Henry of Wales.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex needs to go to avoid them profiting from it

Actually I think it might be better the other way round.

The Queen should remove their HRH, thereby detaching them from the monarchy.

Keep Duke and Duchess of Sussex because let's face it, no-one's ever going to want that tittle again.

No disrespect but I doubt the average American (or indeed Brit) would know the difference so it won't harm their ability to cash in, but it protects the royal brand from whatever they decide to do in the future.

Win win I would say.

*title not tittle!

Skysblue
Harry is a dad now and doesn’t want his son to have the same crappy childhood he had. If you or I wanted to quit our jobs and move abroad in order to offer a better life to kids, that would be pretty simple. Millions of people do this. Why shouldn’t they?

It is worth pointing out again that they are not doing this, they are fucking off and cherry picking what they want to do whilst still being paid for a job that they are barely doing.

If they want to go they should just go.

^^ this

The more I think about it the more I think my respect for Harry has increased 100%.

It would be easy to continue opening supermarkets and turning up at charity events for the next 60 years while his brother gets the top job but he’s decided to break away to save his family from the same fate that he, his mother and brother had.

To have the childhood he had, in the public domain from the moment of conception, to have your paternity constantly doubted, to walk behind your mothers coffin as a young teen with the whole world looking at you, to have every mistake on the front of the tabloids, every holiday documented in the press, your exam results doubted, to be surrounded by yes men and flunkys, to have no chance of following your own dreams must be horrendous and I don’t think cash and nice houses would make up for it.

There MUST have been a reason this announcement was made without telling the Royal family first, perhaps he’s been talked out of it previously or he knew what the reaction would be so put it out into the world first so it couldn’t be undone.

I don't see the correlation between what we perceive to be Harry's life and our own. Unless you are born into his life, you have no idea the privilege and pressure they have.
So saying they can do the same as us and vice versa is just plain daft.

And we can't comment on if he's broken away from the royal family as none of us has a feckin clue what is involved and what he'll be doing in a years time.

Sussexes have just released photos on their Instagram of them visiting Grenfell Kitchen a couple of days ago on a "secret visit"

I think it is obvious that because they are using the name Sussex Royal for their website they want the best of both world's.

He more I've thought about this, the bigger the implications could be.
What's to prevent any other family member saying "no thanks. I'll work towards being independent financially but till then no more duties please."
George or his siblings ?

ShatnersWig
Sussexes have just released photos on their Instagram of them visiting Grenfell Kitchen a couple of days ago on a "secret visit"

The Sussex's PR train is moving in to action.

It will be interesting to see the amount of "does a lot of work for charity but doesn't like to talk about it" pictures.

Terrible that a girl and a boy say they need to lead life with less stress - I mean how dare they!

How ridiculous. These are grown adults - both in their mid to,late 30's. They are not children or even young people. They are fully grown and supposedly mature adults - albeit ones who are acting like petulant children.

Harry has been excuse much in this country because of guilt over how he had to walk behind his mothers coffin. He's, that would have been hard. However what is harder is this:

Having your entire family taken to the gas chambers and never seeing them again (my father aged 8)

Seeing your mother shot in front of you by the secret Police while you hide under the bed waiting for them to find and shoot you (my mother aged 16)

My parents grew up to become doctors. They escaped a communist country with three young children and built a life for themselves in the UK.

What they did not do, ever, is use their experiences as an excuse to get their own way.

SussexRoyal sounds like a bad aftershave you purchase in the shit aisle of Aldi.

Leigh. 👏👏👏👏