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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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TheMustressMhor · 10/01/2020 10:56

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

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Dongdingdong · 11/01/2020 22:02

It seems Andrew Parker-Bowles was far from faithful so I wouldn’t condemn her.

So that gives her a license to go and break up someone else’s family? Interesting logic there.

I think Charles and Camilla is the most romantic thing to happen to the Royal family.

Yes, because sleeping with your mistress behind your wife’s back is sooo romantic. And let’s not forget tampon-gate Hmm

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 11/01/2020 22:03

@TheMustressMhor
Very astute observation and very true. Thinking about Whitney Houstons daughter bobbi dying in the bath tub exactly like her mother. So sad.

hambledon · 11/01/2020 22:04

But she was asked about this in their engagement interview. No, not a problem she said. Said she didn't see leaving her career as a change or leaving something behind. More of a transition. She was proud of what she had achieved as an actress, but was looking forward to her new role, getting stuck into projects and charities. First thing she and Harry did on their 'blind' date was get out their diaries compare notes and talk about their passion for charity and international development work. Harry had conveyed what was expected.

They can't have expected the vitriol though. Who would have anticipated that? They did everything 'right' but they were still savagely laid into. Nobody would put up with that. Nobody reading this thread would have the stomach for that. Have some compassion and just back off.

JulietJanuary · 11/01/2020 22:10

HAMBLEDON! not Wimbledon.

There is imo a definite UK tall poppy syndrome and it can feel horrible.
The press can be ridiculous in how they spin stories. Readers ime factor that in.

I remember reading all about relations of P William's then fiancee . She had the unsuitable uncle and they interviewed her (gasp) working class distant cousin 3 times removed in a North East England town. She may even be descended from a miner I think. Possibly.. Maybe..

We have a snide press, with odd hang ups.

If anyone wants a quiet life away from the nonsense no-one sensible would object. Although obvs the tabloids would say like the singer from Abba that someone keeping a low profile is an angst-ridden recluse..

Dongdingdong · 11/01/2020 22:12

She was proud of what she had achieved as an actress, but was looking forward to her new role, getting stuck into projects and charities.

I remember hearing that during their engagement interview and having such high hopes for them. It really felt like they were intent on making a difference. It’s a shame it’s all turned to nothing in such a short time.

Fuzzyhair89 · 11/01/2020 22:13

What's tampon gate lol?

I don't think the Camilla and Charles story is romantic. It was built on betrayal and lies. Yes they loved eachother. But Charles should of thought about his children and wife before playing away. Royal or not. In any other family he would just be a cheating p*k. He wasn't putting William & Harry first when he was sleeping with her. I get the queen didn't allow them to be together and she probably should of done but that doesn't justify destroying Diana's life! That poor women would still be alive now if she had been treated properly and not dragged into all that Camilla crap

The whole family is far from perfect though. Andrew is divorced. Anne is too isn't she??? She might not be! Charles is divorced. Andrew has been accused of all-sorts too!

I think Kate & William are a good strong couple! That's really love!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2020 22:16

I'm not sure if she thought it was better than it turned out or if this was always her plan

With the caveat that Meghan wasn't alone in agreeing the plan, I always used to think that this wasn't her intention from the start - but the timescale gives it away

The trademarking of "SussexRoyal" happened barely a year after the wedding (presumably after time spent discussing it) and I believe someone said the new website was built even before that, so either it really was intended from the outset or they've got no staying power at all

Frankly I'm not sure which is worse ...

Leflic · 11/01/2020 22:17

I agree Charles having an affair was shit but to be honest Charles was under huge pressure to get married. Doubt anyone would have lasted long and I don’t suppose he was that happy with the arrangement himself.
Camilla was the always the one.
Diana could have pulled the plug earlier too. She wasn’t short of admirers.I think the both did their duty until they couldn’t stick it any more.

hambledon · 11/01/2020 22:17

JulietJanuary I agree with this:

If anyone wants a quiet life away from the nonsense no-one sensible would object.

If they had announced after discussion with their family that they were moving to Vancouver Island so Meghan could set up a yoga school for underprivileged kids with ocassional acting jobs and Harry to work with commonwealth veterans or something, that would be understandable. I am disappointed they look to be monetising their brand.

I'm disappointed but not angry with them, as some people seem to have been since MM appeared on the scene. They are human beings. Why do people feel such hatred for them? That's why I feel defensive.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 11/01/2020 22:17

Nobody would put up with that. Nobody reading this thread would have the stomach for that.

You have no idea about the lives people on this thread have lived or the things they have survived or what they could put up with or 'stomach'. It has been pointed out that other RF have put up with a load of terrible headlines and got through. People who are wise on the subject and could have dispensed advice.

There's also the issue of H&M not accepting decent experienced PR advice, and as the Royal photographer pointed out, never meeting with the press as per what usually is advised. So stop making it seem like they're special victims. I know many IRL who don't complain even when they're suffering.

Have some compassion and just back off.

Yes because you told me toHmm

Dogno1 · 11/01/2020 22:20

I think it'll all rest on what this new 'charitable entity' will consist of. If they're wanting to take on supporting causes and being able to make their own views heard, then I can understand that would be very hard in the capacity of being members of the RF. However, that does seem to warrant the need to lose the HRH titles or else it's into 'speaking for the British public territory'. If they're just looking for a quiet-ish life outside the media circus to raise their child, then fair play to them.

TheMustressMhor · 11/01/2020 22:21

@Fuzzyhair89

What's Tampongate?

A recording was leaked to the Press many years ago, in which Prince Charles was talking to Camilla (while still married to Diana) and one of the grim things he said was that he hoped to come back in a future life as a Tampax so that he could "live inside her trousers".

Really, really grim.

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1142276/prince-charles-affair-camilla-answer-phone-tampon-tampongate-princess-diana

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CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 11/01/2020 22:25

Diana could have pulled the plug earlier too.

Could she though?

Paul Burrell says she never wanted or intended to divorce Charles. The ill thought out TV interview forced the Queens hand.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 11/01/2020 22:28

I think it'll all rest on what this new 'charitable entity' will consist of

Something along the lines of the Clinton foundation? Which has become quite controversial.

Leflic · 11/01/2020 22:28

Prince Charles: “Oh, God. I’ll just live inside your trousers or something. It would be much easier!”
Camilla (laughing): “What are you going to turn into, a pair of knickers? (Both laugh). Oh, you’re going to come back as a pair of knickers.”
Prince Charles: “Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck! (Laughs)”
Camilla: “You are a complete idiot! (Laughs) Oh, what a wonderful idea.

It’s just talking bollocks. Not that bad IMO.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 11/01/2020 22:28

she had the glitzy wedding and all of the support and then hasn't bothered to actually visit the majority of the country is pretty insulting

She wouldn't be the one planning the tours.

Why are you blaming her for this omission? Their Private Office would do all the planning. So blame them.

Fuzzyhair89 · 11/01/2020 22:28

@Puzzledandpissedoff I think it's possibly no staying power. Maybe she's right for Harry but not sure she was ever right for the role. She's not fancy enough (I know that sounds judgey). But then again Harry's always gone for the actresses and blondes. His ex is currently in the new drama white house farm. He was never going to pick a middle class educated partner. I know class shouldn't matter. But the wedding showed she was from the wrong background. Her dad wasn't there. Her mum looked lonely and sad! I remember thinking she looked so sad like she had lost her daughter to hell. I bet it was so intimidating for her mum.

It doesn't massively surprise me. I don't see them lasting many more years. Once Harry's away from his family I think itl hit him. As much as he's had some tough times he has William and Kate and his niece's and nephews. Sad that baby Archie won't grow up around his cousins now.

Fuzzyhair89 · 11/01/2020 22:32

Ewe thats vile hahaha. I can just hear him saying that in his posh voice. I can't even picture him doing rudies Grin

StarbucksSmarterSister · 11/01/2020 22:34

I am disappointed they look to be monetising their brand.

Seriously?

Have you never seen all the Duchy foodstuffs in Waitrose, courtesy of Prince Charles,

Or the Buckingham Palace shop with overpriced tat, biscuits, stuffed Corgis etc?

They all do it.

Alsohuman · 11/01/2020 22:35

The whole Wales scenario was dreadful. It was time for Charles to get married and it seems Diana was picked out for him. They barely knew each other, had nothing in common and he was in love with someone else. She clearly had no idea what she was getting into. She may have thought she was in love but it was essentially a marriage of convenience. All very sad. I don’t condemn any of the three of them, it must have been awful for all of them.

TheMustressMhor · 11/01/2020 22:36

Ha ha ha ha apparently H and M told Elton John of their plans before they deigned to tell HM Queen.

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JulietJanuary · 11/01/2020 22:36

hambledon, there was a Duchess who went back to Yorkshire and taught music when she retired from public life.

I felt a bit sick at the website. My reaction surprised me, I think a lot of us will have some kind of attachment to the Queen as pathetic as anti monarchists may think it!

Anyway good luck to them but "sort yourselves out and visit your grandma" would be my unsolicited message!

Good night to all here.

Planeplane · 11/01/2020 22:43

Why are you blaming her for this omission? Their Private Office would do all the planning. So blame them.

I have read that she declined to join Harry on at least one engagement outside of London. May not be correct but does ring true given he has ventured into the regions and she has not, despite it not being a long journey.

ToEarlyForDecorations · 11/01/2020 22:49

She's left him, hasn't she ?

That's what this is really all about, isn't it ?

StartupRepair · 11/01/2020 22:49

As I said on another thread, there was nothing stopping H and M from living a quieter life in the UK, having a solid circle of friends, supporting charities, representing the Queen on occasion and preparing DC for a private life. This is exactly what Edward and Sophie do. The problem is their desire to be global change champions and their belief in their own importance.