Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

[TheMustressMhor]

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

The irony of telling a bereaved mother PH’s speech wasn’t offensive, before saying if enough people think something is offensive then it is so.

We will agree to disagree on that one, Oak.

The rise of the far right has a lot to do with it in my opinion.

The irony of telling a bereaved mother PH’s speech wasn’t offensive, before saying if enough people think something is offensive then it is so

It's quite breathtaking, isn't it?

Emma, if most bereaved Mothers find it offensive then I stand corrected.

Just one does not a case make.

I thought the same Emmapeeler.

It's the same principle

There was certainly no outcry to the people he made the speech to.

@Ilovepinot so it's not just the British press who are mean to MM then.

I'm still waiting for actual evidence that H and M lecture or preach.

All members of the RF support various charities and make speeches about their causes. I have always found that hypocritical because many of those charities exist to make up for inequalities or because the state no longer deals with it. The various health charities that William and Catherine are figureheads for would not need to exist if there were not such huge inequalities. When they speak about the need for more mental health support is this preaching or lecturing?

William and Catherine are allowed to express support for issues without being called uppity or hypocritical. Harry and Meghan are not. Why is that?

William and Catherine are allowed to express support for issues without being called uppity or hypocritical. Harry and Meghan are not. Why is that?

Exactly this.

Sums up my argument.

I guess HRH now means Half-Royal Highness....

Half Royal Highness! Love this.

jollybird

a lot of Kate's speeches are about being a Mum and how she felt as a first time Mum.

But not to a particular audience of bereaved parents. It takes a special kind of dolt to do that.

This sums up the racism that MM has faced quite well. The one where Archie was compared to a chimpanzee was sickening.

Danny Baker was incredibly stupid for posting that, but i don’t believe he posted it to make a cruel and clearly racist point that Archie’s racial heritage made him akin to a chimp. It was a massive lapse of judgment that he apologised for and was sacked for. It’s not indicative at all of a media that wishes to dehumanise black people by comparing them monkeys as is implied by many who are determined to paint the media as racist.

@jollybird

a lot of Kate's speeches are about being a Mum and how she felt as a first time Mum.

But not to a particular audience of bereaved parents. It takes a special kind of dolt to do that.

Astral, the point is he wasn't deliberately going out of his way to offend.

We all try to be sensitive to the bereaved but it's still not a taboo subject last time I checked.

The main focus of their charity business according to them is "climate change" and "women empowerment".

I don't see how someone who flies with their aides and security back and forth all over the word for their holidays, renovates a huge house that is empty almost all the time, relocates to a country far away of that house in less than two years, wears a new outfit almost every day, etc. can doctore us peasants about climate change.

I don't see either how a woman can dump her career in the bin from one day to another to marry a wealthy guy and then talk about women empowerment.

They want privacy and peace and to do their own thing.

The problem is the one thing they can make monies from - the royal connection can only be done in the glare of publicity, with the media etc.

What they want to do is exactly what they do not - but keep the monies for themselves.

Hypocrisy.

William's major new charitable project is Earthshot, announced very recently. He flies the whole time too. Why is that ok but not when Harry does it?

The RF have charitable interests but H and M lecture and preach? Why is that?

I'll answer my own question. It's because British people don't like people like H and M or they have been manipulated to think they are a certain type of person who doesn't fit with our idea of the RF.

The whole institution of monarchy is absurd. The 'work' of visiting charities which wouldn't need to exist if people like them just lived normal lives rather than hoarding their wealth is bizarre. Why pick on H and M?

eminencegrise

What are you talking about, jolly? 'Not taboo'? Eh hmm. Are you alright? He was crass AF to do that. But the pair of them are always first and foremost about themselves and their feelings. I mean, crocodile tears and complaining about not 'thriving' when you're in a place of desperate poverty, speech on the beach about how much you care about the environment when you flew there in a private jet, 'working towards' financial independence when you inherited tens of millions and still accepting handouts from tax payers and on and on.

Spot on.

*Leigh, if they take breath a lot of people find it offensive.

Just why is that*

I don't think they are offensive. I think that Harry making a speech about being a father and I can I,Aline the gushing is offensive to some parents who are bereaved. I had 4 late miscarriages. I find it offensive and disgusting. I can only imagine how much more painful it would have been had I met my children properly.

And no point accusing me of racism because my late husband was black.

I find them childish and petulant. That's entirely different.

We all try to be sensitive to the bereaved but it's still not a taboo subject last time I checked

Ffs are you really as bloody crass and insensitive as this? No such thing as “the bereaved”, we stopped all that dehumanising nonsense decades ago. He stood in front of a group of people who had tragically lost children and eulogised about the joys of parenthood. Quite frankly why he wasn’t physically attacked is a mystery to me. I guess they were all too shocked to say anything. For the love of God, please stop defending this.

If people here are sensitive to the needs of the bereaved it's no bad thing.

Forgive me if I do not seem to be.

Use that sensitivity for Meghan as well.
One could say it takes a special kind of dolt to direct such 'negative criticism' towards her as well, as she is a new Mother.

Personally I think this has played out exactly as many of us suspected.
If I were MM I'd stay away from Merc's, Paparazzi on mopeds and Never Ever venture into foreign underpasses.

No one leaves the Royals...well not with their lives anyway!

They should both have done a Lucan.

Apply the same rules to all.

That's all.

If his one speech offends how do you think this couple feel about the numerous headlines etc?