Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

[TheMustressMhor]

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

I was disappointed and angry with their comments, especially Meghan’s , when they visited South Africa, all that” thank you for asking how I am because no one else has asked “ stuff was ridiculous, they were visiting desperately poor people, women and children in particular, and it was all about how they were feeling. It’s all very well talking about mental health, including their own, but there is a time and a place , and that visit here was neither. I firmly believe that it isn’t racism, if anything it’s because she is American , if she had blonde hair and blue eyes or whatever, the press would still have had a go at her, with all that navel gazing and me, me, me, however every woman who joins the firm has had a very hard time of it, at least at the start, she has been with Harry for around 4 years now, and that’s no time at all.
She is a grown woman and I don’t believe she didn’t realise what joining the RF would mean. They have handled this very badly imo.

What are you on about, jolly? There's a time and a place for bringing up having a child and what he did was inappropriate. I have 2 surviving children, of course they're talked about. But to go to a symposium like that and even bring that up when there might be people in there who have lost their only child would be really self-indulgent and inconsiderate. But well, that says a lot about him.

I also agree with Slazengerbag how many other post partum women could survive the bitching hatred that some are dishing out, the GPs surgery would be full of women with mental health problems if they had to take the level of abuse being spewed.

My robust defence emin is:

Rubbish.

Not taboo. At all.
Nothing wrong with it.

It was not as if he made the speech with the intent to offend and it should not be taken that way.

Thing is none of the twitter posts, Tumblr or Youtube trolling is going to stop once they leave. They get abuse on Instagram, abuse worse than on the DF comments, yet continue to employ it as a means to promote themselves.

As for not being papped, I reckon that will occur much more in America. At the moment there is an agreement with the RF and the press, regarding when and how they are photographed. No idea if that will be respected elsewhere. Certainly when Kate went to France and had her boobs photographed it wasn't.

Zipadeedoodah Of course. But the Cambridge’s are part of the Royal institution. They have to do all the shit bits too including not making a drama about anything.
Harry and Meghan want out. Fair enough but you are either a working Royal or you aren’t. The Queen will always be granny and William his brother but Harry will be just another titled person of privilege.Shouldn’t be allowed to exploit the Royal family to promote their own business.

GlitchStich could you find and share some actual examples of H and M 'lecturing' people please?

Several people on these threads have mentioned that H and M lecture or preach. Just because the Daily Mail or your friends say H and M do this, doesn't make it true. Share actual evidence please. Real quotations, including their source.

If you can't find evidence have a think about why it is that you believe that they (or Emma Thompson) lecture or preach? Could it be to do with the fact that people with liberal views are automatically targeted by papers like DM and people like you fall for it? Even if you don't read those papers you are being influenced by friends, neighbours, family or colleagues who do. Without realising it this belief becomes 'common sense'. it's not common sense, or even true. People who mention that we should be worried about climate change are not lecturing or preaching they are just telling the truth.

I also agree with Slazengerbag how many other post partum women could survive the bitching hatred that some are dishing out, the GPs surgery would be full of women with mental health problems if they had to take the level of abuse being spewed.

I think if I knew I could get on my private plane and have a lovely holiday in a country that doesn’t slag me off I’d probably be ok. Elton John or Oprah would probably make me feel better too.

I really liked Meghan until she acted liked a total fanny at Wimbledon.

She may of done but I’m pretty sure she wasn’t expecting the Daily Mail to be running a hate campaign against her?

Hate campaign?

This extrapolation that “criticism” is “hatred”, and that any reference to race outside of the tightly defined constraints of woke-culture is “racism” is corrosive and alienating to the vast majority of Britons who have no problem whatsoever with Meghan’s racial background.

What are you talking about, jolly? 'Not taboo'? Eh . Are you alright? He was crass AF to do that. But the pair of them are always first and foremost about themselves and their feelings. I mean, crocodile tears and complaining about not 'thriving' when you're in a place of desperate poverty, speech on the beach about how much you care about the environment when you flew there in a private jet, 'working towards' financial independence when you inherited tens of millions and still accepting handouts from tax payers and on and on.

If you can't find evidence have a think about why it is that you believe that they (or Emma Thompson) lecture or preach?

Oh give over with your patronising nonsense. I can read, I have eyes and ears and observe what people say and form opinions accordingly.

This extrapolation that “criticism” is “hatred”, and that any reference to race outside of the tightly defined constraints of woke-culture is “racism” is corrosive and alienating to the vast majority of Britons who have no problem whatsoever with Meghan’s racial background

Absolutely right. I don’t even think many people considered that she was mixed race at the beginning. She’s very light-skinned. It seemed to become an issue of their own making.

Fair enough but you are either a working Royal or you aren’t

That’s not true though is it?

There are lots of minor royals who do the odd engagement, get to live in royal/Windsor family residences, access royal handouts via other royals and use their royal connections to get a leg up in their chosen field.

Beatrice and Eugenie being the most obvious examples.

I'm perfectly fine emin.

More importantly -are you?
I hope so.

@Oakenbeach

Could you please define “woke agenda”?

GlitchStich what is your actual, real evidence that H and M lecture or preach though? Not just your feeling that they are not the sort of people you like, but real examples.

Hate campaign?

Ok, I’ll post the link about all the false reporting again

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/amp29812271/meghan-markle-lawyers-false-tabloid-stories-explained/

I'm good, jolly.

@jollybird

The Mail article states how different Meghan and Harry’s background are in a tabloid style. It could have written something similar about my upbringing in Nuneaton!... Nowhere is it racist, where by racist I mean the dictionary definition that is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior..

Could it be to do with the fact that people with liberal views are automatically targeted by papers like DM

Perhaps it's the fact that complaining about 'surviving not thriving ' when the backdrop is existential poverty in South Africa is grotesquely self indulgent?

What does the dictionary definition have to do with anything?

I think you'll find that if a significant number of people of a particular race are offended by something it's racism.

That's it.

Initial reports of his exotic girlfriend out of Compton - it's not rocket science, come on.

We know what the media were implying.

In America racism is blatant. Here it's more under the cover of civility... but it can't be denied.

Don't gaslight posters who see the racism that is clearly there .. these accusations of it only being asserted by the "super-woke" is indicative of how deep rooted this racism is - you can't shout down those that are brave enough to call it what it is .

Can’t help but think the alleged Russian interference in all of this could be significant (if they did really stay at a Russian oligarch’s house in Canada).

I mean, it’s pretty convenient that suddenly the monarchy is having a severe wobble and suddenly the entire country is examining what their income is and what the point of them is. Along with Brexit, stirring up the masses like this seems to suit Russian interests well, does it not?