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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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TheMustressMhor · 10/01/2020 10:56

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

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Slazengerbag · 11/01/2020 16:55

Harry didn’t use the speech to witter on about becoming a parent to bereaved parents at all. He said that as he was now a parent it brought it home to him more.

I think it’s wonderful news that they are becoming independent. If we carry on paying for them then so be it. We would never get the 69p it costs to pay for the royals back and it certainly wouldn’t go to the nhs, schools, etc under the tories anyway.

Mumsnet is full of people talking about their in-laws. Mother and sister in laws seem to be the worst. The replies are always to go low or no contact. Surely this is no different?

MM knew what she was getting in to? She may of done but I’m pretty sure she wasn’t expecting the Daily Mail to be running a hate campaign against her? Twitter pages, tumblr, you tube channels and blogs set up to criticise her every move and to hate on her. Surely she didn’t know that was going to happen? People say well it happened to Fergie and Catherine. Does that make it any better? It is bullying plain and simple. Just because others have gone through it, it doesn’t mean that the next person has to. Women are on mumsnet slagging her off about how they don’t like her, she’s conniving, it’s all an act, she’s controlling Harry and so on and so on. I will bet my life on the fact that not one person on here has ever met her and had a conversation with her and Harry, let alone know them well enough to know this stuff. You all have this impression of her from the media.

@mumsnet I thought you didn’t allow bullying threads and it went against the guidelines? We can’t talk about the Mcanns because they are parents but we can rip apart about a new mum who has admitted she is struggling. Shame on you.

GlitchStitch · 11/01/2020 16:56

Most people are irritated by them because they act like preachy celebrities. Outside of their bubble most people find that kind of thing really annoying, hence Ricky Gervais being such a hit last week.

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2020 16:58

I keep getting news stories saying shocking and devastating blow. Hamming it up somewhat.

Zipadeedoodah · 11/01/2020 16:58

@Slazengerbag brilliant post.

Alsohuman · 11/01/2020 17:00

Emin, a lot of Kate's speeches are about being a Mum and how she felt as a first time Mum

She doesn’t make them to bereaved parents, does she?

Leflic · 11/01/2020 17:00

People wanted them to leave the Royal family and have their own lives. That can’t be said if they are promoting SussexRoyal as a brand.

Archie will be hidden from public glare until H&M want to big up the fact he is seventh in line for the throne and all that entails. I’ll put money on it.

jollybird · 11/01/2020 17:01

Glitch, but what have they actually preached or 'banged on' about as so many here say?

One speech does not mean they have been preaching.

It's the gross exaggeration that really irritates me.

Laiste · 11/01/2020 17:02

Harry's face in the Canada House footage - well he looks numb and detached. Like someone who want's to mentally blank out what they are doing or (as we now know) what they are about to do.

Love her or hate her i believe Meghan Markle will be go down in history as the most ambitious and audacious social climber of our time. Successful in the end or heading for a big old fall remains to be seen. Diana was capable of being manipulative with the knack of using the press - MM eclipses Diana's efforts x a billion and i recon she feels she's only just got going!

Harry - my opinion is that he anticipated that by the time he was married and starting a family his father Charles would be King, the monarchy slimmed down and his brother William settled in the role of Prince of Wales. I believe Harry hoped to then melt into the background a bit (with whoever he'd married by then) and step right out of the spotlight.

But along came Meghan and sat down beside him ....

Her ambition and Harry's deep seated problem with the Royal circus is now a perfect storm. She's shown him a way out. He's jumped on the speeding train. His face looks to me as if he knows there's no jumping off.

jollybird · 11/01/2020 17:02

Also
And that a crime, why?

A lot of bereaved like to talk about kids.
It's not a taboo subject to them.

Zipadeedoodah · 11/01/2020 17:03

@Leflic what if they are promoting the brand to make money for charity ? They've only trademarked in the same way the Cambridges have ..

PineapplePower · 11/01/2020 17:03

Emin, a lot of Kate's speeches are about being a Mum and how she felt as a first time Mum

I doubt she can relate to normal humans anymore tbh this is probably the only thing she can talk about

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2020 17:05

Kate used to get a hard time for being a social climber - she’s loved now. Maybe the newest royal addition will let Meghan off the hook. (She’ll be waiting a while).

Zipadeedoodah · 11/01/2020 17:07

@Laiste why don't you just say what you don't like about her instead of painting a woman you've never met at some Lady Macbeth figure. Women have kicked Meghan more than anyone else - and it's indicative of how we treat each other- with jealousy and suspicion-

jollybird · 11/01/2020 17:08

Marsha, I think Meghan has the right idea, getting out now.

Because generations before 'sucked up' insults and bullying doesn't mean she has to.

Alsohuman · 11/01/2020 17:09

A lot of bereaved like to talk about kids

Bereaved isn’t some kind of weird species. Imagine losing a much loved and wanted child - you’re never the same after this incidentally - and having some insensitive, privileged prince bleat on as if he’s just invented parenthood. It was self indulgent, crass, unempathetic and egotistical. Don’t even try to defend it.

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2020 17:11

I don’t really blame her Jollybird, particularly protecting her dc. I was a bit hmm about the trademarking stuff but as someone said it could just be defensive, in which case fine.

GlitchStitch · 11/01/2020 17:12

Talking about the evils of social media as they launch their Instagram account, lecturing on the environment as they treat private jets like buses for a start. I don't need to be told via cringy insta posts how to behave by over privileged people who don't practice what they preach. I feel the same about Emma Thompson, Gwyneth etc.

Notonthestairs · 11/01/2020 17:13

I agree with Slazengerbag.

None of my friends or family have mentioned anything to do with Harry and Meghan. In fact I don't think they've been referred to since their wedding! So I think a good proportion of the British public isn't giving the Royal family any headspace at all.

eminencegrise · 11/01/2020 17:14

I agree, Almost. I'm a bereaved parent. I found that speech so self-indulgent and offensive, made it all about himself. I'd have been so fucked off and upset had I been there. But, well, he comes across as very self-centred.

Alsohuman · 11/01/2020 17:22

I’m so sorry em 💐 I found it really offensive with far less reason than you.

jollybird · 11/01/2020 17:22

Also
What on earth are you talking about weird species?
You lost me.
It's not taboo to talk about children to bereaved parents.

At all.

My grandmother lost 3 children.
She loved anything and everything about children.

This blind assumption that it's wrong is what is being used as a weak excuse to continue to bash at them.

jollybird · 11/01/2020 17:22

You've *

Oakenbeach · 11/01/2020 17:24

@LovePoppy

I read it this morning. In fact I was open to the fact that the media had been racist towards Meghan until I read it. The article is a prime example of the definition of racism being stretched and weaponised to attack anyone who isn’t deferential to the woke agenda.

BovaryX · 11/01/2020 17:26

Some might find this entertaining. I found the reference to 'surviving not thriving' when the backdrop was existential poverty and violence in South Africa very distasteful. But the narcissism of the 0.000001 per cent is defended with a curious passion by some......

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/01/why-people-who-hate-brexit-love-megxit/

jollybird · 11/01/2020 17:27

I'd say it's quite the reverse, Oak.

People make racist and offensive comments and with the same breath swear blind they are not racist.

It's quite the thing to do these days.