Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

Personally I admire the couple - for taking a stand against the media.

Just ignoring half truths as well as outright lies may be the way some people would like to play it - but why should they?

Good on them and I sincerely wish them the very best.

What is this rubbish about her giving up a career that earned her millions she was in a tv series earning a reported £350,000 per year.
Which is a lot of money of course but it's hardly a multi million dollar Hollywood career. As much as she'd like us to think it was.

She married the Prince of the United Kingdom what the hell did she think was going to happen?
So it's not what she thought it would be, (like everyone in the UK is living a fairytale life..) but then leave and we'll wish you well.

But they want to brand the Royal family and make a spin off show starring Meghan Markle and her husband.

They talk about 'collaborating' with The Queen - who the hell says that.
They sound like they're Little Mix recording a song with Justin Bieber.

The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous. If he is so worried about her mental health and his own why are they then planning endeavours which keeps them in the media spotlight?

Oh yes. Big money.

Amazing the number of posters who appear to know about MM plans when they got married and how many years it will be until they get divorced. None of us know what they discussed when they got married, what MM may have known about the RF’s lifestyle or their future plans.

I guess she may have thought that you wouldn't have to bow to the Royals because you would become one of them! It would be more free and easy, do and say what you want and never get criticised for it. Have a free rein. Change them from the inside.
Meghan has discovered it doesn't work like that! That's what I think anyway. This is why she is bailing out on it all.

I am sure Prince Charles will just want them to be happy and to keep Harry safe and secure and protected (and probably in the UK a fair bit).

The couple should have listened better to PR advisers. Even simple things like showing off the new baby when you leave the maternity hospital which takes about 5 minutes and the public like it they could not bring themselves to do. As for not spending Christmas with the Queen when it might be the last Christmas for teh Duke of Edinburgh that just seems very cruel to me. They could at least have spent a couple of days there. They need to remember, duty, obligation, being kind to others - all those things most of us try to do whether rich or poor.

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Edward did behave like a pompous twat at that point - he was 23, and like most of us, still had a lot of growing up to do.

He seems to have supported his family quietly and loyally as an adult. DD was at a D of E event at Buckingham Palace, and he came to speak to her to ask how she thought it was going. As an underling volunteer, she was very impressed, as she was with Sophie at another event. They may not be stars - nor want to be - but they are great supporters, and the Queen must be very relieved to have them and Anne around at present.

I think Prince Charles loves his son and he will do anything to keep him close. I should imagine he carries a lot of residual guilt for what his children went through. I think they'll largely get what they want and it will spun round to make it palatable to the great unwashed. He's not as ruthless as the queen

Xenia, the irony is they are the first to promote being kind and charitable, looking out for others and all the rest yet it only applies to other people doing this , not them! They have to do what makes them content and happy ! I know so many people like this: 'do as I say , not as I do. ' H and M are no different to the majority of people I have come across in life : let's focus on me! My happiness and well being. Even if it upsets everyone else.
In this respect they are as bad as each other.
I have stuck up for them in the past and I can see why they don't want to be part of the family in the UK but there is also an element of selfishness too.
My mil was the most selfish person I've ever known. She didn't care what her actions or words had on other people but was quick to get upset if anyone called her out on it! Then It was everyone else's fault never hers.
People are a complex breed sometimes.

Well, whatever we all think, they are stepping down.
I truly believe that Meghan makes Harry happy. His only fear is that Meghan will leave him.
He was very fortunate to marry someone like Meghan and he knows it
Good luck to them

Megan knows what she’s doing. I found it bizarre how when they first got together she said she didn’t know who prince harry was and that the royal family wasn’t popular in the states. I would say that the states probably love the royal family more than we do. According to her friends she’s was obsessed with princess Diana. She even went to visit Buckingham palace when she was younger! She’s a social climber. She made friends with lots of celebs and then just ditches them. How many people has she fallen out with. I think it was her idea to move to Canada and convinced prince harry. Don’t think their marriage will last when he realises that’s she’s alienated him from his own family.

I should imagine (Charles) carries a lot of residual guilt for what his children went through

If he does, I suspect it will translate into pity for himself rather than any empathy for what others have gone through; the endless reports of his utter self absorption seem to me to preclude the second option

I recall reading at the time of Diana's funeral - though obviously I can't know if it was true - that the boys' appalling walk behind the coffin was actually his idea, on the basis that having them alongside might prevent him being attacked by the hostile public

I will reserve my opinion on this until we see how they move forward when it is resolved. If they live quietly and don't seek publicity I will respect them. If they try to promote the sussexroyal brand and look for attention I will lean to the opinion that they are selfish and that Meghan does indeed have a difficult personality. Time will tell.

I know which I'd put money on Paintedmaypole - but as you say, time will tell.

I don't think anyone can deny the awful press treatment, and given what happened to Diana they are understandably protective of their child and they want more freedom for their charitable endeavours.

So to an extent they were always going to go down this route. I think they were rightly worried the press would twist it all up so they have gone one step ahead and moved perhaps quicker than they would have liked.

The whole press thing - well Harry needed no encouragement there and Meghan is quite principled about the whole thing.

Should they have moved so quickly? Possibly not. Could Harry have done more sooner to make his wife feel supported? Maybe. Is it sad to see the two brothers fall apart? Yes.

Will we see repercussions against the media, I hope so. Will this make us hold a spotlight on racism? We should but I fear not, unless they win against the media.

More power to them I say.

Personally, I think that’s what got her in the end. Playing second fiddle and realising that the royals weren’t that wowed by her after all and saw her as Harry’s wife, not the megastar she wanted to be.

I completely agree. If you don’t accept your place in the hierarchy you are finished before you begin. The heirs are at the top of the heap. Their partners are also of importance by association.

MM looked put out at the back of the Royal balcony or on a second balcony. It was so obvious - yet Princess Anne, for example, seemed to accept her drop down the hierarchy with good grace. Poles apart.

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Emeeno comparing the situation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex with the Salem witch trials is indicative of profound historical illiteracy and laughable hyperbole.

Yes, it’s hysterical in the original sense of the word.

This may have been addressed by someone else Strawberrycreamsundae but regarding your post;

“Has anyone else noticed that Meghan always leads when they undertake any visits, as if she's the more important?
DH pointed it out, seems quite odd”

I know that I do this in public. If we are amongst family and friends, even at our own wedding, in all the photos I look like I am striding ahead. You could read that as that I think I’m more important, actually it’s because DH is very shy and hates crowds so I always try and get ahead/take the lead because I know he hates it. We don’t know, MM may well be doing the same.

Er, 'kowtowing to the Royals' is in the job description if you marry a prince who is sixth in line to throne......

Of course it is. That is the way it works and no more rigidly than within the Royal Family, the institution.

Some of the parallels with Wallis Simpson are there. She also set her sights on a prince but when they left the country she lost interest in him largely. It was never the same.

Re the false reporting. Well, I plodded through as much of this article, posted earlier, as I could bear:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/amp29812271/meghan-markle-lawyers-false-tabloid-stories-explained/

And I guess I can understand why some of the reporting was unpleasant for them - the “girl outta Compton” stuff, for instance. But some the details are quite petty, and that makes me think they must have spent days and days scouring the press and making lists and keeping track, in minute detail, of everything that was said about them. Why couldn’t they just ignore some of this rubbish? I mean their lawyers are suing for thing like: false claims that her favourite food is avocado on toast (and a stupid link to the fact that avocados fund murder). False claims that the renovated cottage includes an orangerie and a yoga studio. False claims that her mum wasn’t invited to her baby shower. It’s all annoying stuff, but couldn’t it just be ignored?

I know that I do this in public. If we are amongst family and friends, even at our own wedding, in all the photos I look like I am striding ahead. You could read that as that I think I’m more important, actually it’s because DH is very shy and hates crowds so I always try and get ahead/take the lead because I know he hates it. We don’t know, MM may well be doing the same.

You are not a Royal spouse. It is protocol for Royal spouses to walk behind. Prince Philip spent most of his life doing that. No one can just barge in and upset centuries and centuries of tradition. MM thought she could, though.

Harry does not lack confidence.

but couldn’t it just be ignored?

Of course it could - and should. It only happened because they refused to work with the media in the way the RF has done for the last 20 years. If you put their noses out of joint, they get their own back. The sooner they’re off the better, if I never hear anything about them again, it’ll be too soon. Not holding my breath, though.

In real terms, I suspect, what made them announce this as they did was like a very real and typical DIL-doesn't-like-inlaws spat.

'If they say one word about me when we return, that's it, I want us to release a statement saying we're out!!!'

Somebody said something, or she read something that she didn't like and so she then spat her dummy out of the pram and said 'Full steam ahead' to whoever manages her Instagram.

It's real life played out on a royal scale.

I think Harry is smitten and in love. I think he really loves her. But I think she's older, wiser and crueller than him. She's cold and calculating. She wanted to be top dog and could not STAND being in the chorus line. They are so badly matched it's lunacy in a way. She's a dominant character, who says nothing in public but uses the machinations of her PR company to extoll whatever rant she's having on any given day.

Woe betide Harry if they ever do split up (which I believe will happen within 2-3 years). She will use the baby as a pawn and be an absolute nightmare to deal with.

She has him on her turf now and if ever there was a living example of the hen pecked husband - Harry is it.

When the South African tour ended people said 'I wish they would go away...'
they're doing that now and people and the media find fault with that!!

@AraGrand - where does your information come from about MM?

But I think she's older, wiser and crueller than him. She's cold and calculating. She wanted to be top dog and could not STAND being in the chorus line. They are so badly matched it's lunacy in a way. She's a dominant character, who says nothing in public but uses the machinations of her PR company to extoll whatever rant she's having on any given day.