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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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TheMustressMhor · 10/01/2020 10:56

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

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CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 11/01/2020 13:53

Agree puzzled

The thing is no one respects a person who gives up everything for them. It's just the way. It really has echoes of Edward VIII. Eventually Simpson had no respect for him, he had walked away from his responsibilities and duties. She ended up treating him quite badly.

H may think he wants to be free but honestly he NEEDS to keep his Royal status, he's never been a Joe Blogs. He's never experienced walking down the road and no one gives a shit who you are or cares to ask. Ok, it's highly unlikely he'll ever know whats that's like as he's famous in his own right, but he's never had people not defer to him.

He may think because he was in the Army and treated like one of the lads that he can just be ordinary, but I think he underestimates how much being Prince H would have affected peoples reactions, acceptance and liking of him due to cognitive bias and sense of obligation to country.

It'll be a rude awakening.

I guess it's in his best interests for the door to be left open somehow and he become a part time Royal.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2020 13:55

Superb post, DuchessofWoke. FWIW I used to defend Meghan on the basis that there's so much she couldn't have known beforehand, but I've changed my mind and now honestly believe she planned this from the start for the sake of the increased status and money making opportunities

BovaryX is quite correct that their leaving may create problems for the RF, but it certainly won't for them - at least, not initially - while they enjoy having cash thrown at them and being feted by saucer-eyed "empathisers". It's just a shame for Harry that he'll be throwing his lot in with folk who have little tenacity, often too few morals and a habit of casting aside those who turns out to be quite limited in favour of the next "big thing"

MurrayTheMonk · 11/01/2020 14:00

I don't remember Harry being 'paraded about' when his Mum died. In fact that was one of the virus I UK's levelled at the Queen when she wasn't seen for a few days-she insisted on keeping the boys up at Balmoral with her so they were out of it all a bit.

People say he shouldn't have been forced to walk behind the coffin etc but I know my 12 year old was keen to attend her Grandads funeral and was really annoyed when we considered not letting her go. And if he hadn't been there that might have had different ramifications both reaction wise and for his mental health.

All of this stuff can be twisted to suit whichever side of the argument I think.

Emeeno1 · 11/01/2020 14:03

I am currently reading a book on the Salem witch trials which seeks to explain the type of religious or social frenzy that leads to the destruction of innocent men and women.

There are parallels in this modern day situation. It is not just that people disagree with them or dislike them, the hatred is visceral, seething, alive, relished.

Where will it all end?

BoneyBackJefferson · 11/01/2020 14:04

It will be interesting to see what the different spin factories put forward over the next 12 months and just how much detritus has to be waded through for their branding to take off.

Cookit · 11/01/2020 14:05

Just going to a funeral and walking behind a coffin in processionals with thousands of people screaming at you and the eyes of the world watching you are different things. I don’t think anyone would suggest he shouldn’t have attended the funeral just that neither he nor William should have done that public walk.

Alsohuman · 11/01/2020 14:05

Apparently I was “salivating at the break up of someone else’s marriage” when I predicted that Harry will end up ensconced in Frogmore with a British second wife and new family. We’ll see if history proves me right or not, I’m still predicting it.

Cookit · 11/01/2020 14:06

*in a procession rather than “professionals”

BovaryX · 11/01/2020 14:06

Emeeno comparing the situation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex with the Salem witch trials is indicative of profound historical illiteracy and laughable hyperbole.

roisinagusniamh · 11/01/2020 14:07

I tend to agree with that prediction Alsohuman

KimchiLaLa · 11/01/2020 14:09

What of this was not very clear to her BEFORE accepting the proposal? Did she not know we get less sunshine? Did she not know royals live in old houses? Did she not know her friends wouldn’t be moving in with her? I’d have known all this. Any British woman would have known this. And Harry’s mouth is big enough to have opened up and TOLD her what her future would be like.

She went into it in full knowledge. It’s absolute lies for her to spin that crap about we don’t have tabloids in the US. My friends said the will destroy your life. Really? This worldly-wise woman in her thirties had no clue that if she married the most famous, most eligible prince in the world, that she would garner a lot of media coverage? And that some of it wouldn’t be flattering? Bit that most would be overwhelmingly supportive? She didn’t know that? She insulted an entire country in that interview.

Nah. She thought she’d transform the stuffy old royals and bring a bit of California to the situation. She thought she’d be the star of the show. And she was, for about six months. Then the reality set in. The fairytale wedding watched by millions was over and now the role began.

To be the wife of the 6th in the line to the throne and walk three paces behind Kate and William at every public function.

Personally, I think that’s what got her in the end. Playing second fiddle and realising that the royals weren’t that wowed by her after all and saw her as Harry’s wife, not the megastar she wanted to be. And that she would never fit in because nobody believed she wanted to fit in. She wanted to ploughing her own furrow.

She can’t say that though. So she calls it racism and blames her new in-laws for being unsupportive.

It was a disaster I think EVERYONE predicted. I loved watching their wedding and thought it was all beautiful and romantic and Harry looked so happy. But no-one watching it thought it would end any differently than it has.

Divorce in 2 years*

THIS

I came on here to give my piece but frankly this says it all.

DeeZastris · 11/01/2020 14:10

I will be amazed if they are still together in 5 yrs time.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2020 14:13

Spot on, Catherine, and I said as much about Edward and Walis on another thread. Of course the difference is that he was King, but in the end he was just another weakling, dazzled by temporary glamour and too ineffectual to escape from a situation largely of his own making

To be fair, the implacable nature of Queen Mary and the new Queen Elizabeth would probably have prevented him returning even if he'd wished to, so for Harry's sake it's to be hoped attitudes today would be more forgiving

Emeeno1 · 11/01/2020 14:14

BovaryX

Thank you for your comment. It is hatred which interests me. There was a lot of it in Salem, there is a lot of it here. Why?

TheMustressMhor · 11/01/2020 14:18

After the divorce, and second marriage, will PH admit he had been foolish to marry MM? I wonder.

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roisinagusniamh · 11/01/2020 14:18

Meghan knew what she was doing. She was in her mid thirties when she married, not barely out of her teens like Diana.
However, I do admire her for not kowtowing to the Royals.
And I admire her for not conforming and being bowed over the English upper class.

BovaryX · 11/01/2020 14:20

There's a lot of hatred directed at many public figures on social media and IRL. Nigel Farage and Jacob Rees Mogg have been subject to vitriolic attacks and physical intimidation. Does their treatment remind you of Salem witch trails?

The80sweregreat · 11/01/2020 14:20

I said on one of the many threads about their wedding in 2018 I didn't think it would last mostly because his family are so old school and stuffy and regimented and her upbringing was completely different and she didn't have much idea of how it would be. He may have tried to warn her , but she didn't really listen. Who does when your young or you think you know it all? I know I didn't at times and now I wish I did and I'm a lot older than they are.
She may have thought she could change him , but lots of men and women fall into this trap and then discover you really can't. All this is about keeping them happy ; sometimes when you get what you want you realise it isn't keeping you happy at all!
If it doesn't work out who will they blame then?

ssd · 11/01/2020 14:20

@Alsohuman, Edward is a pompous twat. See his reaction to journalists not enjoying Its a royal knockout. Pompous entitled twat.
And Phillip isn't even prosecuted after he put 2 people in hospital before being made to surrender his driving licence.

So don't tell me when I'm talking nonsense.

BovaryX · 11/01/2020 14:22

However, I do admire her for not kowtowing to the Royals

Er, 'kowtowing to the Royals' is in the job description if you marry a prince who is sixth in line to throne......

Dongdingdong · 11/01/2020 14:22

It’ll be very interesting to see what the Firm’s solution is to all this.

Grinchly · 11/01/2020 14:25

Brilliant post @duchessofwoke

OlaEliza · 11/01/2020 14:26

@Titsywoo Something that needed both present and their signatures. To stop the monarchy taking their son.

Yes because Liz and Phil are well known for being child abductors

I think this is all getting a touch overdramatic and unrealistic

There's actually a warrant out for the queen's arrest for the abduction of 10 children in Canada in 1964.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 11/01/2020 14:28

After the divorce, and second marriage, will PH admit he had been foolish to marry MM? I wonder.

Doubtful. He has a child from that woman and marriage. Only a shit would publicly express such a regret knowing their child will be aware of it.

soberfabulous · 11/01/2020 14:29

This makes for interesting reading: documents from their media court cases.

Basically huge swathes of the controversial media claims about Meghan and Harry are untrue.

www.bylineinvestigates.com/mail/2020/1/10/kv913pun97mbewgk1hodcipttt1wfj