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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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TheMustressMhor · 10/01/2020 10:56

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

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AutumnRose1 · 11/01/2020 13:01

I did wonder how MM could leave LA. I thought it was because she found the royal lifestyle so appealing. Oops.

AllTheWhoresOfMalta · 11/01/2020 13:02

I found this an interesting read (via Women Against the Right on Facebook)

zelo-street.blogspot.com/2020/01/harry-meghan-press-truth.html?fbclid=IwAR2sMg8hTmo4hCjkUx8FE-cZCRp72fEpxGY1NMhtHsm9nXt3ANE6dWHYQO8&m=1

Grinchly · 11/01/2020 13:04

Yes alsohuman, exactly.

I also don't understand the intrusion issue. I haven't seen any papped pix, or footage of them being hounded in private, in the way that Diana was, or Kate Middleton was at first.

Some sections of the press have been rude and critical and there have been a handful of disgracefully racist pieces, over which they are suing. It was manageable.

Coverage of the Africa tour was overwhelmingly positive, until they decided to implode it.

I just don't get it.

BovaryX · 11/01/2020 13:08

Parker
It's very disingenuous to pretend they are like any other couple emigrating. Their royal titles and royal brand are dependent upon them remaining in the UK and dutifully traipsing round drizzly provincial towns, whilst remaining subservient to those above them in the hierarchy. It is not compatible with permanently relocating to LA. Without his royal connections, what is PH's job?The inherent problems in this are legion. The negative press will amplify until the queasy new position unravels.

AutumnRose1 · 11/01/2020 13:12

Grinchly “ I also don't understand the intrusion issue.“

But this is partly because they’ve taken steps to avoid it. If the press knew when and where MM was having the baby they’d have camped out.

If they knew who the godparents were, they’d have done thorough character assassinations and god the opinions of MM family as well as the best friend’s third cousin twice removed of the newsagent who occasionally sells a bottle of milk to said godparent.

Parker231 · 11/01/2020 13:13

They don’t want to continue with the job they have so are changing it. Being a member of the RF doesn’t sound much fun - time for a change. I say good for them. Lead the life you want to, not the one the press and people who don’t know you think you should.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 11/01/2020 13:16

She went through postpartum anxiety and NEARLY broke down in a public interview, she was not offered love and support from the public instead she was called a drama queen!

For the last time. Nobody. No one person or news rag, asked H&M to do an interview.

No one. Nobody asked them for private information about their family dynamics and their mental health or lack thereof.

They proffered it themselves.

It's not like Britney Spears crying on the steps while being relentlessly papped.

They set up, negotiated and chose what to include as content. Are you seriously saying you believe that they didn't know what questions they would be asked and didn't see the edited film beforehand and couldn't just object?

Wake up. They did that interview knowing full well they had plans underway to leave.

It was a way to establish a cover and make them appear more sympathetic for when they did leave.

Announcing actions against the press was phase one. The interview was phase 2.

cathyandclare · 11/01/2020 13:18

Please let's not pretend that the RF are precious about monetising their brand. Is it one rule for some of them?

www.royalcollectionshop.co.uk
www.highgrovegardens.com/collections/gifts
news.sky.com/story/zara-phillips-designs-clothing-line-10492981

I'm not against it btw, it's just the pearl clutching about H&M that irritates me.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 11/01/2020 13:19

That's a very interesting and informative link allthe. Thank you.

Go well Meghan. I'm only surprised you lasted as long as you did. I'd have been long gone.

BovaryX · 11/01/2020 13:21

They don’t want to continue with the job they have so are changing it

Hmm. The British Royal family reside in Britain. If they leave, there are serious problems with them trading on their titles to make money in California whilst swerving the dreary provincial towns gig. This will be apparent to millions of Brits. Let's hope it's apparent to the Queen because negative publicity is already on maximum after the Prince Andrew debacle

Alsohuman · 11/01/2020 13:25

*But this is partly because they’ve taken steps to avoid it. If the press knew when and where MM was having the baby they’d have camped out.

If they knew who the godparents were, they’d have done thorough character assassinations and god the opinions of MM family as well as the best friend’s third cousin twice removed of the newsagent who occasionally sells a bottle of milk to said godparent*

So what if the press had camped out outside the Portland? What harm would it have done? There hasn’t been any character assassination of the Cambridge children’s godparents. Perhaps if this was a possibility, the right godparents weren’t chosen?

lyralalala · 11/01/2020 13:27

As much as I think they’ve handled it extremely badly I think it has to be kept in mind that we only see a tiny handful of the papped photos taken

I was surprised when I was in Spain on holiday to see Charlotte and Louis playing in a park with their nanny on a magazine cover. From a quick flick through it seems there is clearly a pretty strong deal between the British media and the royals when it comes to photos and publishing them

It reminds me of when there was the deal when they were at school and uni. Once it became known that Kate was his girlfriend other photos of them cane out shopping in St Andrews and the likes

I think there’s a big difference between photos taken and photos published

I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if the likes of the Daily Mail really push their luck with things like that

lyralalala · 11/01/2020 13:28

The St. Andrews ones I mean photos that had been taken over his time there, but not published

cathyandclare · 11/01/2020 13:28

The point is that the press are intrusive and have been consistently inaccurate. This details the legal case from the blog allthe linked:

www.bylineinvestigates.com/mail/2020/1/10/kv913pun97mbewgk1hodcipttt1wfj

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2020 13:30

PH was envious of PW’s position even when they were children. He is part of the support cast and he knows it

Ironically he's still part of the support cast, but for Meghan now - I just wonder how long he'll be prepared to play second fiddle on her turf, assuming she doesn't cast him aside first

And why this constant emphasis on Canada? Maybe it looks good as a first step, being part of the Commonwealth and all that, but does anyone seriously think Meghan will trade the contacts, the glitz, the weather and the proximity of her mum for the northern rain?

makingmammaries · 11/01/2020 13:32

* To stop the monarchy taking their son.
FWIW, Diana was refused permission to take her sons to live in Australia. Permission from the Monarch is needed to take a royal child out of the country. If they hadn’t left Archie in Canada, they wouldn’t be able to cut and run in the way they have. I personally think that was done deliberately.

DuchessofWoke · 11/01/2020 13:33

She probably all hated it hence wants out to her old ways, seeing old more suitable friends...etc..she does not want to sit in rainy UK in a cold old fashioned house if there is always sun shining in LA

What of this was not very clear to her BEFORE accepting the proposal? Did she not know we get less sunshine? Did she not know royals live in old houses? Did she not know her friends wouldn’t be moving in with her? I’d have known all this. Any British woman would have known this. And Harry’s mouth is big enough to have opened up and TOLD her what her future would be like.

She went into it in full knowledge. It’s absolute lies for her to spin that crap about we don’t have tabloids in the US. My friends said the will destroy your life. Really? This worldly-wise woman in her thirties had no clue that if she married the most famous, most eligible prince in the world, that she would garner a lot of media coverage? And that some of it wouldn’t be flattering? Bit that most would be overwhelmingly supportive? She didn’t know that? She insulted an entire country in that interview.

Nah. She thought she’d transform the stuffy old royals and bring a bit of California to the situation. She thought she’d be the star of the show. And she was, for about six months. Then the reality set in. The fairytale wedding watched by millions was over and now the role began.

To be the wife of the 6th in the line to the throne and walk three paces behind Kate and William at every public function.

Personally, I think that’s what got her in the end. Playing second fiddle and realising that the royals weren’t that wowed by her after all and saw her as Harry’s wife, not the megastar she wanted to be. And that she would never fit in because nobody believed she wanted to fit in. She wanted to ploughing her own furrow.

She can’t say that though. So she calls it racism and blames her new in-laws for being unsupportive.

It was a disaster I think EVERYONE predicted. I loved watching their wedding and thought it was all beautiful and romantic and Harry looked so happy. But no-one watching it thought it would end any differently than it has.

Divorce in 2 years.

AutumnRose1 · 11/01/2020 13:34

Alsohuman "So what if the press had camped out outside the Portland? What harm would it have done? There hasn’t been any character assassination of the Cambridge children’s godparents. Perhaps if this was a possibility, the right godparents weren’t chosen?"

I take the view that everyone is entitled to be a private person and not public property. I'm not a royalist but I think if you carry out your duties, that should be enough. You shouldn't have to deal with the press camped out near you or deal with their perusing on your choice of godparent.

TheMustressMhor · 11/01/2020 13:35

Assuming she doesn't cast him aside first

Oh, I think she will.

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AutumnRose1 · 11/01/2020 13:35

in the beginning, I didn't think much of this development tbh. But now I'm thinking something has happened.

it seems very odd, even for empire builders, to want to cause this much hassle within an institution that can give them a lot of power.

Alsohuman · 11/01/2020 13:40

think if you carry out your duties, that should be enough. You shouldn't have to deal with the press camped out near you or deal with their perusing on your choice of godparent

Unfortunately that isn’t how it works. If you live a luxurious life style at the taxpayers’ expense a price has to be paid. Meghan presumably thinks like this too and she’s as wrong as you are.

Happinessinapeartree · 11/01/2020 13:40

Apparently Harry is negotiating the best deal he can for his family.

Good for him. After he was paraded about when his mother died to appease the public he deserves every penny he can get and to go and never return.

HairyToity · 11/01/2020 13:44

Initially I was unsupportive, due to it seeming rash and underhand. However there have been so many horrid articles in the DM, and nasty comments I've changed my tune. You only get one life, let them carve their own path. They should not have to carry on being unhappy.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 11/01/2020 13:45

@DuchessofWoke - yes with bells on. Although I hoped they’d be happy tbh.

AutumnRose1 · 11/01/2020 13:47

Alsohuman yes, I disagree with that. I think the price is that you are on show at certain events. Not 24/7.

I'm not a royalist and have mostly been interested from a PR perspective because I thought there would be a big shift in how royalty does things, but if people really want them to be public property 24/7 I can't see why H&M don't just walk away.

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