Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

I reckon that’s their usual page

Ah - fair enough. I'm not in any way "up" on how they operate, so although it looked really odd to me, I guess you could well be right

There are over 100,000 children in the UK either in care or on a Child in Need plan. that doesn't include the ones living in poverty whose parents are somehow keeping them fed and cared for.

Yes, the media intrusion was bad. Yes, walking behind your mother's coffin horrendous. But... there are plenty who have had it, and continue to have it, far worse. Who are abused and neglected, then have no supportive extended family and every facility at school to cope with the consequences. Who do not have a place as an officer in an elite regiment made available, despite their lack of qualifications.

There were photos of the direct line of succession only - nothing more nothing less.
But I understand (and am happy to be corrected as I've not watched the Queen's Speech since I left my parents' home a long time ago) that this was unusual, as in the past, photos of the whole family would have been on display?

Interesting, that list of trademarked items - disappointed however no penis beaker.

Haha

Maybe the Queen felt the country would have complained if she'd had Andrew's photo on the table, and then realised that if she left Andrew out, but displayed everyone else, she might have upset his daughters (who she presumably cares about, and who presumably care about him), and then realised that she'd therefore have to leave out Edward so as not to be obvious, and then realised that if she left out Edward she'd have to leave out Anne, and then if she left them out, how could she justify Harry, so went for the option she felt was easiest.

So all about Andrew really, and nothing to do with Harry and Meghan.

I'm sorry, I've not read the whole thread, but Prince Andrew's associations with Epstein and Co are far more worrying than the behaviour of Harry and Megan. I agree with someone who postulated on another thread that the Queen is using this story to distract from the really bad one about her favourite son.
Agree with this. Its fabulous gossip, but really, so much distress and family urgent meetings and statements? What about Andrew and his freeloading off paedophiles? Overlooking teenage girls wandering around at parties attended only by middle aged men because he was too high and mighty to notice the minions? Not important? The only thing that matters is the image and continuation of the Royal Family and in their eyes, Harry and Meghan are more damaging than Andrew in that respect. Which says it all really. And I have no respect at all for the press corp that they have absolutely gone to town on Harry and Meghan because they have decided to break from the press circle but didn't go to town on Andrew because they wanted to keep being thrown scraps by the Royals.

Hereditary Head of State Queen Elizabeth II. Elected Head of State Donald Trump. 🤔

I suspect maybe they were getting a Canadian passport for Archie.
Something that needed both present and their signatures. To stop the monarchy taking their son.

Seaweed, how would Archie qualify for a Canadian passport? You can't just buy one I don't think. A residence permit maybe, and almost certainly, but not a passport.

Slimming down the monarchy has been on the table for a while, we are led to believe. Excellent !

Thé Andrew atrocity, I would suggest gave it urgency. Royal PR kicked in, hence the cluster of line of succession images and video, and lots of well executed pieces on the wholesome Cambridges.

If Dimbulb and Sparkle chose to take offence at that, ( much speculation that it was the final straw) it would speak volumes.

The leak thing has been fairly convincingly discredited. Any decent PR strategy ( should they have chosen to abide by it) would have a plan to contain and manage that eventuality. Neither were they bumped into announcing by the threat of The Sun exclusive. That had been known about for ten days.

Doing it their way has created this needless and massive crisis.

Hereditary Head of State Queen Elizabeth II. Elected Head of State Donald Trump.
And also hundreds of other elected heads of State, including ceremonial presidents that are perfectly fine, and whom their countries can vote out when they don't perform well or they fancy a change and who's people don't have to house their adult children, grandchildren , cousins, second cousins etc because they occasionally open a supermarket in Grimsby.

I'd bet my money on it not lasting. Give it max 3 years. And then they will blame the UK media.

Sorry, I'm missing the point of this comment in the context of this thread, would be grateful for an explanation, please.
"Hereditary Head of State Queen Elizabeth II. Elected Head of State Donald Trump. 🤔"

To stop the monarchy taking their son.

FFS !

Something that needed both present and their signatures. To stop the monarchy taking their son.

Yes because Liz and Phil are well known for being child abductors

I think this is all getting a touch overdramatic and unrealistic.

@iwantomountchrispratt is it just me, or does Harry as Del I'm that picture look like Joe Swash?

• I suspect maybe they were getting a Canadian passport for Archie. Something that needed both present and their signatures. To stop the monarchy taking their son.*

For a start Archie isn't entitled to a Canadian passport given his mother is American and his Father British.

Secondly on what possible basis would you conclude that the monarchy would take their son? There are laws against kidnapping you know....

Well technically the monarch has custody of all Royal children so if they divorced for example or Harry were to die, the Royals could bring Archie back to the UK and the family could keep him away from Meghan. It would be more problematic and cause a diplomatic incident if they did that, as he is also a US citizen but I wouldn't put it past them to keep him away from his mother if they could.

It would be more problematic and cause a diplomatic incident if they did that, as he is also a US citizen but I wouldn't put it past them to keep him away from his mother if they could.

"Well technically the monarch has custody of all Royal children"

Not quite - monarch has custody of all their children and grandchildren. No mention of great-grandchildren. So, like titles for greatgrandcion (similarly not specified), the Queen gets to make this up to suit her wishes.

However, after her death, King Charrles will have custody of his grandchildren (that's the law), presumably that's one of the 'complicated' issues HMQ wanted Harry to sort out with his father?

The only way they can do this is if they are no longer Royal. But as soon as they are no longer Royal, where's the brand value

Packing,
This is the key point. It will be interesting to see how or if this contradiction is resolved

@Packingsoapandwater

I'm a bit late to the second thread, so just trawling through the posts. I have to say I enjoyed reading yours immensely.

Very enlightening and thoughtful 😊

I wouldn't put it past them to keep him away from his mother if they could.

Yes in the same way they kept William (the heir to the throne and not someone way down the pecking order like Archie is) and Harry away from Diana after she and Charles divorced....

....ah yes, they didn't....

Some of the speculation on this thread is just silly and totally add odds with facts/evidence/prior events.

HMQ is also Queen of Canada. As grandson of the head of state, I'm sure there would be no significant immigration issues for Harry.

But they did say Meghan chose not be to fast-tracked for British naturalisation. So her time out of this country might become an issue