..to be furious with Harry and Meghan

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Ok ok, we've had loads of threads. I accept their decision to want to resign from public duties - always though Harry might do that ...

BUT ... why should we pay for them? How come they get to keep Frogmore cottage, which WE the tax payer have paid for? And we have just paid over 2 million for them to renovate it???

If they want to go their seperate ways from Royal duties, FINE...... BUT , if they do that, they surely should relinquish the perks (i.e. the house, cars, money that comes with the job) and do what the rest of us do - earn their own.

(Feeling irrationally angry for some reason!!!)

Meghan is really a bloke and should LTB.

Let's look at how and where the money comes from before declaring yourself disgusted. Crown estates pays into the treasury and the treasury pays about 25% of that to the queen in a privy purse. Charles has income from the Dutchy. He then pays william, Kate, harry and meghan for their official duties. Frogmore belongs to the Queen. It was in a bad state of repair so was already in line for refurb before they got married. If the D &D refuse the privy purse payment, this is about 5% of their income. If they cut 80% of their official duties, their income from these should be reduced to 20% of current payment. H has inherited from his Mum and the QM so is wealthy in his own right. The UK police cover security when they are in the UK and claims it back from various purses depending on the occasion. They pay their own security when they are in Canada.
The outpouring of hysteria over the decision to step back is probably based more on sadness that an American woman has "taken away OUR prince" as some commentators have noted, and done it in the most breathtakingly crass way by bypassing protocol ....then left the country leaving Harry to pick up the pieces with his family and the British public/media.... if you believe everything you read.

That's incorrect, the Met police is covering their security in Canada. There is a statement in their flashy, cringy new web.
So that means that the taxpayer has funded 6 weeks of police protection in Canada just before they quit.
How thoughtful of them.

I forgot to add that I hope that they offset the carbon footprint of all the the back and forth travel of the police officials...

There is no point in being furious about Harry and Meghan, they do not care what people think about them. Maybe if you are riled about their expensively done up house in London, you could maybe write to the
Queen, and ask her to turn it into an old peoples home,to make some people happy.

I'm not British so it's of no consequence to me what they do , I hope they are happy and live the way they want . But I do agree they shouldn't be funded by tax payers when they won't be carrying out duties . Also all this furore is keeping Andrew out of the papers I bet he's delighted

By having royalty , The state put them at risk, so the state should fund their security

This

*I think you are projecting your own resentments, frustrations and problems on to two total strangers, OP.

They only have one life, and they are also parents now, which I certainly found changes your priorities. Good luck to them.

I'll save my fury for what and who really deserves it.*

69p a year, the whole entire royal family costs the average tax payer.

I don't see the point in getting worked up about one missed Gregg's sausage roll.

I wish people would stop starting new threads about the same damn thing.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-will-find-its-cold-outside-v2kdmr2r6?shareToken=27bf411f9c553b923d547fff86116b7e&wgu=270525_54264_15786595412213_58a0621cab&wgexpiry=1586435541&utm_source=planit&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=22278

TheFoxAndTheMole I thought that about the EU.

Maybe work on feeling fulfilled in your own life and you won't feel fury for absolute strangers who are doing nothing wrong.

Good one them.
I’m surprised no one was used the batshit bingo trump card of “the queen/duke doesn’t have long to live” Yet.
Why would the wants of your extended family be greater than the needs of your wife and child?
Isn’t protecting your wife and children from toxic family environments what MN preaches?
Maybe Harry has finally realised be doesn’t need to be controlled by family “duty” and his wife is supporting him in his choices.

I think I’d get out of the family who thought it was a good idea to have a 12 year old who had just lost his mum walk behind her coffin in a parade for the “people” to wallow in their grief for a person they didn’t actually truely know.

69p a year, the whole entire royal family costs the average tax payer.

Why is it we only break down the cost this way when it’s about the royal family, we don’t do it about anything else. 69p is a hell of a lot of money when all added together.....I’d rather it go on more nurses, teachers, police etc than one pampered (undeserving) family.

I’m surprised everyone is willing to believe all the yarns they spin us. It’s damage limitation, I think the queen has forced them to stand down, the monarchy was getting damaged, but she’s prepared to allow them to let us all think it’s their choice. They can make more money now too, which seems to be their game.

I think I’d get out of the family who thought it was a good idea to have a 12 year old who had just lost his mum walk behind her coffin in a parade for the “people” to wallow in their grief for a person they didn’t actually truely know

And what's more, all those people, hugging and being hugged, comforting each other, sobbing. While nobody put their arm around the 12 year old's shoulder who had to ensure the noise of strangers wailing.

If Meghan Markle came on here and told the story of her in laws, she'd either be advised to LTB, or to support him in stepping back from the family.

I highly doubt anyone would reply telling her they are "furious" at her 🙄.

I agree if Meghan posted on here most people would tell her to leave the country and go low contact.

69p a year, the whole entire royal family costs the average tax payer

We spend more on the royal family in 2019 (£67mn) than the tories were prepared to spend on providing free breakfasts in schools for poor kids. (£60mn in their 2017 manifesto)

Pretty fucking disgusting.

The £67m is their stipend taken from their crown income. They give the rest to the U.K. Treasury- usually over £200m/yr The royals do not cost the U.K. a penny.
Look up the facts.

The crown estate generates income which is public money.... The crown estate is not the queen’s or royal family’s private income.

The £67mn is paid out by HM Treasury.

It is not their private income, but the Queens income as head of state.
The Crown Estate is not government/tax payer property. It belongs to the head of state. The income is therefore not public money until it is given to the U.K. Treasury. The Treasury then pays the royal family a stipend that is 25% of the income from the Crown. They are effectively paying 100% tax on the Crown estate and getting a 25% tax credit back.

“In 2017/18, the Crown Estate made about £330 million profit. As we’ve said this all goes into Consolidated Fund before the government pays the Sovereign Grant which is based on 25% of Estate profits. But the Crown Estate isn’t the royal family’s private property.

The Queen herself is part of the state—specifically, Head of State. So the land she owns as Head of State, (meaning the Crown Estate) can be described as the Sovereign’s “public estate.”

The Treasury say of the Crown Estate, “while it is part of the public sector, it is not government property.

“Nor is it part of the monarch’s private estate.”

From fullfact.

The Crown Estates belong to a legal entity called ‘The Crown’.

It doesn’t belong to any individual. It’s not accurate to describe it as The Queen’s money. Neither is it exactly state money.

It’s original purpose was to fund the running of the state. George III cut a deal to hand that over to parliament in exchange for the sovereign grant, so the idea of the monarch magnanimously handing the proceeds over out of the goodness of their heart is bullshit. It was never intended to fund simply them.

George III cut a deal to hand that over to parliament in exchange for the sovereign grant, so the idea of the monarch magnanimously handing the proceeds over out of the goodness of their heart is bullshit

Well yes, historically, George III was afraid of a revolution similar to that in France. He did not want to be guillotined like his cousin Louis and family were. So he agreed to hand over all the royal estates that he had historically used to fund things like the British Army and Navy, the treasury, the Bank of England, roads, sheriffs, etc. Historically the monarch had to pay for all that out of their income. So the estates and businesses deemed to belong to the Crown, were given over to the government and in return the proceeds are to fund both the privy purse (private needs of the monarch) and also needs of the UK government.
So, yes it was an act of self preservation at the time.

Don’t forget too that George III was also called “Mad King George”
So who knows whether he was in his right mind when that deal was cut. Could very well have been a power grab by the government at the time.