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To think Harry wants to Have his cake and eat it

572 replies

Lardlizard · 09/01/2020 09:25

If you want to leave fine, goodbye
But you can’t be half in half out !

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Scarsthelot · 10/01/2020 10:51

That interview was so they did communicate with the people.

That was the point of it.

It was crass and ridiculous and shows they have no clue.

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 10:59

Yes, and many of the UK are worse off than her. Basically everyone is. The point of it being amidst all the poverty is it made her look even more removed from reality/self-centred. Here are all these people with real problems. Here is me in the next shot whinging about how hard my life is with my millions. Which I chose.

She wasn't complaining about lack of money though. She was complaining about how she was being treated by the press and she is subsequently trying to sue them for it. Just because someone has money doesn't mean that they are always happy with life and have nothing to complain about. That idea is ridiculous.

crispysausagerolls · 10/01/2020 11:03

She was complaining about no one asking if she is ok! And doing some little victim act about how it’s so hard to adapt and blah blah fucking blah. I find it utterly impossible to have even a shred of sympathy for her, or her idiotic husband. “As I tell H, It’s not enough to survive, you’ve got to thrive” uggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

crispysausagerolls · 10/01/2020 11:04

Just because someone has money doesn't mean that they are always happy with life and have nothing to complain about

There is a time and a place. This was not it.

Mrsjayy · 10/01/2020 11:06

I wonder if Meghan thoyght she was going to be some off limits princess in her ivory tower ?

StartupRepair · 10/01/2020 11:07

It's becoming clearer how easily she was able to cut all ties with former friends, get ex-husband and her entire family with the exception of her mother.

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 11:12

There is a time and a place. This was not it.

She was asked a question so she answered. It doesn't matter where she was if the question and answer was from/to a british journalist and was going to be broadcast on UK TV.

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 10/01/2020 11:12

I don't understand the RF obsession with taking freebie holidays from strangers. Apparently the Canada mansion was rent free and they are refusing to say who owns it but the owner is thought to be a Russian billionaire. Not likely to be remotely dodgy then.

If they could only bring themselves to look at a holiday brochure and write a cheque for the rent they could save themselves the embarassment of takings freebies from dodgy billionaires. H&M will be grabbier than Andrew and Fergie.

Enough of this nonsense, time to end the whole charade.

Womenwotlunch · 10/01/2020 11:13

I read some of the vitriolic comments about MM and I can truly understand why MM and Harry are standing down
Many parts of the press and some fonts wanted Meghan to go, but they didn’t figure on Harry going with her.
I am sad to see them go tbh

crispysausagerolls · 10/01/2020 11:14

Of course it matters! Being asked a question doesn’t mean one needs to give an honest answer. She could have simply used the opportunity to discuss their tour of Africa more. “I feel incredibly
Lucky, having spent all this time in poverty”
Blah blah blah. We just aren’t going to agree on this. I don’t think it was thoughtful or intelligently done either. I’m
Not alone.

Skysblue · 10/01/2020 11:14

I’ve no idea why people think they’re entitled to tell Harry and Meghan how they should live their lives. What do you mean he can’t be half in half out? Why not? He’s not telling you what to do with your family is he? He can do what he likes with his. If he wants to just see his Gran at her job sometimes but not sign his son’s life away, good on him. Who on earth does it benefit having the royals prance around doing pointless ceremonial duties that take up all their time?

Being royal is obviously shite when compared to just being privately wealthy, being royal in Britain spectacularly shite because of our out of control media / national hatred of rich happy people. Fair play to them for trying to rescue their son from the shitshow he was born into.

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 11:15

I would be prepared to bet anything that her answer was not honest in the least! I’m
Sure she’s perfectly bloody fine and just wants to be perceived a certain way. Eg, as a victim

And how would you know that someone you don't know and only read about in the press is "perfectly fine".Hmm

Scarsthelot · 10/01/2020 11:16

She was asked a question so she answered.

As a person if privilege, she could have thought about how it comes across.

The fact is she didnt. They did that interview to show the real them. That is the real them. People with no idea how normal people live and no empathy.

AraGrand · 10/01/2020 11:31

I think is the moment Meghan wanted out of the royal family........ Grin

KC225 · 10/01/2020 11:32

skyblue Actually, he IS telling us what to do. Think of the climate, take fewer flights, have no more th an two children. When pulled up on his hypocrisy he claims it was 'to protect my family' - what no on else wants to. He is a petulant man trading way above his intelligence.

But I agree with you, he can do what he likes - but not on public purse money and royal status. And as for not signing their son's life away - why did they register the websites/domain names Sussex royal then?

Devereux1 · 10/01/2020 11:35

Skysblue
I’ve no idea why people think they’re entitled to tell Harry and Meghan how they should live their lives

Because he's HRH.
He's our servant.
His life is supposed to be one of duty. To us.
We pay him.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/01/2020 11:51

Enough of this nonsense, time to end the whole charade

Actually, some of us feel that time arrived ages ago. We don't kid ourselves that any one scandal will end it all, but hope for the endless stupidities to reach a critical weight which will eventually sink them

Looking on the bright side though, at least "what do H&M do that all the rest don't?" has been completely knocked out of the park

Womenwotlunch · 10/01/2020 11:52

Read Afua Hirsch’s article in the New York Times about Meghan.
Eye opening and brilliantly written

Bluntness100 · 10/01/2020 12:07

I'm starting to think this is less have your cake and eat it and more Harry desperately trying to find a compromise that allowed him to maintain his royalty whilst keeping Meghan and him happy.

Simply the way it's been handled is beyond awful, the announcement was beyond idiotic, but potentially he felt his hand was forced.

No one knows what goes on behind closed doors, and the fact that child was left in the states and Meghan only came over for what was clearly appearance purposes to stop speculation, ie so he wasn't seen to come back alone and then the last minute photo opp at the Canadian embassy, before she immediately left again, would indicate there is a significant problem at hand.

If he had come back alone the speculation would have been huge. I think they have tried to play a game there, the child was clearly left in Canada because Meghan was only coming here for a brief visit for appearance purposes only. They were never leaving the child for an extended period, nor would they have the baby fly back alone. So Meghan come over for nothing more than to make the british public and media believe all is well and prevent speculation.

Mrsjayy · 10/01/2020 12:11

I didn't understand the canadian embassy visit , still confused by it what purpose did it sevre ?

Al1cewith2020vision · 10/01/2020 12:15

Why people think they’re entitled to tell Harry and Meghan how they should live their lives.

For me, it's why do Harry and Meghan think they’re entitled to tell other people how they should live their lives?

I genuinely think they are better off away from the family, but a) we didn't need the flouncing announcement and b) they'll be back no doubt when they realise how uninteresting they really are.

And I agree with Crispy. All the trademarking tells us exactly how they plan to make money. It's grubby.

Yoghurty · 10/01/2020 12:19

This tweet kind of sums up my feelings on all this

To think Harry wants to Have his cake and eat it
Cornettoninja · 10/01/2020 12:21

@Devereux1 to answer your much earlier post to me I was referencing, what are apparently, your strong feelings between M&H and the fact you seem to think you’re owed something other than a face at state functions from them due to the fact you pay taxes and were essentially calling for a refund. I presumed you had republican leanings...

Republican or monarchist the level of bile aimed at this couple is astounding. Their decision to break away has really unleashed some hateful statements. They really can’t win.

I thought I understood their decision before but I’ve gained a whole new level in the past couple of days. I think their only options were to rip the plaster off quickly or endure years of unsympathetic scrutiny. Given the Queen is making moves to make the senior royal circle smaller I can see why it became a realistic consideration for them.

JulietJanuary · 10/01/2020 12:21

I agreed Yoghurty but then there is the "corporate" website.

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 12:30

The fact is she didnt. They did that interview to show the real them. That is the real them. People with no idea how normal people live and no empathy.

If the interview was to show the real them then they can't really be blamed for being honest. It wasn't a good time but only because the press was used as an easy excuse to rip her apart again. How would she not have any idea how "normal" people live? She's only been in the Royal family for a short period of time. Prior to that she was normal person and she has clearly decided that is preferable! It's a bit of a joke that someone who hasn't lived on both sides thinks they know better.