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To think Harry wants to Have his cake and eat it

572 replies

Lardlizard · 09/01/2020 09:25

If you want to leave fine, goodbye
But you can’t be half in half out !

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woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 08:25

In an ideal world he would have done this before the taxpayers funding an obscene wedding and house renovation.

I don't think the taxpayer paid their wedding itself. They paid for the security but as previous posters are stated that is because they are target and the public would have been at risk as well. I think the house renovation will been paid for from the sovereign grant and maybe the grant wouldn't be in use for that if they had resigned straightaway but they wouldn't have known how the press were going to treat them would they?

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 08:26

Sorry for the bad English! Dictation software is rubbish sometimes!

crispysausagerolls · 10/01/2020 08:29

www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2019/06/25/harry-and-meghans-marriage-pad-costs-british-taxpayers-3-million/#734000cc14e3

Wedding security will have been in the millions too. Not sure why they needed to have such a lavish wedding anyway - they are in direct proximity to the throne, and it’s her second marriage.

crispysausagerolls · 10/01/2020 08:29

@woodchuck99

My typing also awful this morning! Can’t blame dictation it’s all me!

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 08:38

So the queen gave £344 million of her profits to the tax payer and got a fairly small proportion of that back. They aren't costing the tax payer anything net because they give us more than we give back. I think what Meghan and Harry do and how they are financed is between them and the Royal Family. I don't blame them for having had enough of the press making up stories about them. The rest of us can give up jobs they hate so why can't they?

mrshoho · 10/01/2020 08:40

In not too many years Harry will be the son of the King and then the only brother of the King . What happens when he endorses a product or an organisation which the UK government does not or which conflicts with the UK governments policy . This is why I think they need to be in or out , if they want to completely free of Royal restrictions they will need to cut all official ties

ummm Prince Andrew and his carry on over the years. What good has he ever done for the RF ? They haven't been in a hurry to streamline until the details of his private life have come to light.

Honeyroar · 10/01/2020 08:40

Bonnesvacances it was all over the news last night about them being removed from the rota. It’s not hidden in the media at all.

Peaseblossom22 · 10/01/2020 08:49

Actually Prince Charles who has very little time for Andrew has been trying to cut him out for years . After the Queen's jubilee a few years ago the balcony only included the Queen, Charles and Camilla, Harry , William and Catherine. They only person to object was Andrew .

I suspect one reason they didn’t cut him out was because firstly he wouldn’t have gone easily and secondly it enabled them to at least keep some control over his excesses , obviously this latter was misguided . Also to keep the two girls close .

Peaseblossom22 · 10/01/2020 08:52

Also Meghan and Garry are planing a very high profile foundation rather like the Clintons/ Obama’s . This will not be in the Seedy background this will be upfront and out there possibly constantly conflicting or undermining the official UK line

Peaseblossom22 · 10/01/2020 09:09

Garry love that , obviously it was meant to be Harry !!!

crispysausagerolls · 10/01/2020 09:12

The press ARENT making up stories though, are they? Like Meghan genuinely stood there in Africa, surrounded by pure poverty, and complained about people not asking how she is doing. No one made her so something so fucking insensitive and moronic.

othervoicesotherrooms · 10/01/2020 09:21

Actually Prince Charles who has very little time for Andrew has been trying to cut him out for years . After the Queen's jubilee a few years ago the balcony only included the Queen, Charles and Camilla, Harry , William and Catherine. They only person to object was Andrew .

How do you know this? Do you work at the palace?

IfThingsComeInThreesWhyThisNow · 10/01/2020 09:23

According to their website, it costs a pound per taxpayer per year to cover all Queenie's overheads. Given the pound coins I have paid for various random non-school uniform days, a pound is worth my time to watch Piers Morgan foam at the mouth, still butt hurt having been ghosted.

othervoicesotherrooms · 10/01/2020 09:24

Also Meghan and Garry are planing a very high profile foundation rather like the Clintons/ Obama’s . This will not be in the Seedy background this will be upfront and out there possibly constantly conflicting or undermining the official UK line

Or this?! I'm intrigued how you have all this info.!

Wish he was called Garry!! 😂😂

Al1cewith2020vision · 10/01/2020 09:26

I Suspect some of the antipathy towards Meghan is because she is American - and a west-coast American at that - rather than because of her skin colour. It’s cultural, Brits don’t like earnest and preachy.

Where I have sympathy for Harry is how his role has become less relevant as William has grown into his. My impression is that the brothers were close as young adults and that William, lacking in confidence leaned on Harry.

Time has since passed, William has a wife and family to support him and has learned his job. He doesn’t need Harry’s help as much which must be painful. The Happy-Ending could have been Harry marrying and finding his place in the world. But I suspect there is a mismatch of expectations between Harry and Meghan and that neither of them are happy.

That isn’t the fault of the media or the British public and they aren’t being hounded anywhere.

Anything you (Kate) can do, I can do better was the wrong plan.

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 09:27

The press ARENT making up stories though, are they?

The factor that some stories are true doesn't mean a large proportion aren't false!

Like Meghan genuinely stood there in Africa, surrounded by pure poverty, and complained about people not asking how she is doing.

She wasn't complaining to the people living in poverty about it though was she? She was presumably talking about people in the UK or the Royal family etc.
If someone has money does that mean that they are never allowed to be unhappy about something ever again?

LaurieMarlow · 10/01/2020 09:31

Those doubting that the press made up stories about them, read this

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/amp29812271/meghan-markle-lawyers-false-tabloid-stories-explained/

mrshoho · 10/01/2020 09:33

crispy i think you're twisting a situation in my opinion. In that interview M was being asked about her life and the difficulties of this new role she was dealing with. Why shouldn't she be honest and express that the Establishment care little about her personal well being. Just as they did with Diana. Awful that this is what you take from the really good work they both did on that tour. I'm not a huge fan of any of the RF but they are human and shouldn't be seen as puppets that only do or say what the Establishment and press believe they should.

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 09:36

How does your link demonstrate that the press did not make up false stories?

woodchuck99 · 10/01/2020 09:37

Sorry I misread!

LaurieMarlow · 10/01/2020 09:37

How does your link demonstrate that the press did not make up false stories?

It’s demonstrating that the press did make up false stories

Al1cewith2020vision · 10/01/2020 09:41

Why shouldn't she be honest and express that the Establishment care little about her personal well being.

It’s called insight.

Bright, compassionate people don’t talk to poverty stricken people with complex lives about their own problems.

BonnesVacances · 10/01/2020 09:41

No wonder you're confused.
I'm glad you understand why anyone would be confused at you posting an article claiming it's racist but admit there is no racism in it.

Tbf I do feel like I'm arguing with stupid now. Hmm I said there was casual racism in it. You may say that saying someone is inferior due to their race is the main definition of racism. But it's not the only one. Tbf it's not my problem you only recognise one. I don't have to live with your mentality or views. You do.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 10/01/2020 09:45

You do not complain about your life when surrounded by poverty. You just don’t do it.

mrshoho · 10/01/2020 09:46

It’s called insight. Bright, compassionate people don’t talk to poverty stricken people with complex lives about their own problems.

She wasn't talking to poverty stricken people though. She was being interviewed by a UK presenter for a show to be broadcast in the UK. I'm pretty sure she has the insight to know not to moan to the South African people she met with on the tour!