To think Harry wants to Have his cake and eat it

[Lardlizard]

If you want to leave fine, goodbye
But you can’t be half in half out !

No more planes and helicopter rides as a family of 5 for the Cambridges

I think after this there wont be a chance in hell of them flying together again

I’m wondering if Meghan is thinking that if they move to N America for most of the year, then when she divorces him she’ll be able to say Archie should stay over there with her as he’ll be settled there/at school there.

I'm a republican, but I think paying for their security is only sensible. They're targets, because Harry is going to be the grandson, son, brother or uncle of the sovereign for his whole life. Imagine if he were to fuck the whole thing off completely, go and live in a cottage somewhere then in ten years time Daesh or whoever kidnap him. That would grossly compromise and embarrass the UK. No, they're undoubtedly an attractive target so in all our interests they need police protection for their security, and that means us paying. It is better than the alternative.

I'm also a bit bemused by the Kate's birthday overshadowing comments. Does she usually get much public attention on her birthday? I can't say I've ever been aware of it before.

I agree with both the comments re inevitablility of ongoing security costs for Dim and Sparkle, though they should be made to contribute.

Also for the Cambridges the not flying/driving as a family again which will be a massive private bore, and another public expense.

Costs are not just about the salaries and the actual journeys made.

Is there any actual facility to make people pay towards their Met police protection (presumably) costs? I mean, what happens if they just dont?

I'm also a bit bemused by the Kate's birthday overshadowing comments. Does she usually get much public attention on her birthday? I can't say I've ever been aware of it before.
This!!! She's 38, it's hardly an exciting age to celebrate

@BoxedWine - not really. I also think the protection isn't just about them - when Lord Mountbatten was killed by the IRA they also killed non royal Innocents who were just in the area.

As a note, I believe Barrack Obama's daughters also have security service protection, even though their dad isn't president and they are private citizens. It's because "not being shot or kidnapped" isn't a special privilege reliant on your working hard enough to justify your basic personal safety.

I don't understand why they bothered to announce anything!

The Queen's own sister managed to live abroad and do what the hell she liked for most of her life.

They could have just faded out gradually. Stopped doing public appearances and lived in Canada for however long they liked, popped back every now and then...

No need for dramatic announcements.

interesting idea howells.

I don’t even like the Royal family but I would love for the Queen to tell the both of them to fuck off and take their titles off them. agree, that can happen.

No, boxed there's no way to make people pay for their protection. It's either required due to the threat assessment and provided or it's not required.

Obviously people can turn it down if they don't want it, but they wouldn't be asked to pay for it.

Devereaux - the decision about protection isn't made on how important the person is to the UK, it's on the likelihood of them being a target.

Salmun Rushdie had it for many years due to the threat from Iran as a result of his books. Nothing to do with his importance- and when the threat recedes then the protection is reviewed.

It is being reported M has already left for North America again - I wonder if pp is correct and this was some sort of ultimatum. The announcement feels premeditated, in that the branding, pr and website is up and running, yet the timing so sudden. Could it have been raised previously , perhaps when the Cambridge/Windsor pr divided and the 6 week break was time to reconsider?

What a mess.

I also think it's very odd that she has left for Canada and that Archie was left there, so she never intended to stay here for any length of time.

It makes me think there is a significant marital issue here and the break was for crisis talks in their marriage. And that's why he asked to see the queen then pushed the button.

I don't know but clearly something is very very wrong here if they left the baby in Canada, came back and then she's left again.

If you look at the pics of them on the Canada embassy visit, you can see she's acting super happy and he just stares at her a lot.

I also wonder if she's given him an ultimatum. Her and his child or royal life, and if she has, the queen and Charles will do what they can to help him.

I'm not a Royalist at all
MM clearly doesn't like the fact she has to follow Royal Protocol, I note she never appears in front of Kate in pictures, which I assume is the pecking order since Kate being the future Kings wife.

As for PH, Yes he lost his mother, as do thousands but without the massive safety net. His stint in the Armed Forces is not exactly heroic, I read that he was never in harms way and always had other soldiers to protect just him.

I have no time for any.....except the Queen, the likes of this country will never see again. Incredible that she has committed her entire life to her Royal duty even decades after others have long since retired.

Andrew, Fergie, Beatrice, Eugene, Edward, Sophie are just hangers on in my view,

I wouldn't bow my head to any Royal.

The world has changed, its about time the British monarchy changed too.
I bet even without the Royals, the Assets would still rake in a fortune for the treasurer via tourism.

Imo it's also a super massive middle finger to Kate. They could have waited few days🤷

If it’s true they left Archie in Canada, I hope they won’t be writing a lifestyle blog.

I don’t think we’ve got much to learn from people who leave their child on another continent at less than a year old.

Let him earn his money!
Meghan has her own money!

Im looking forward to the thread in a few years time when reality hits and she realises what a useless waste of space he really is, she'll be on here complaining about him being a cocklodger - giving up a comfortable life to,find himself, forcing her back to work to keep them in the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed and going NC with his toxic family

But it’s what happens in the royal family they were unusual taking Archie with them to South Africa

I cant believe they did bring Archie with them. Imagine any other family being away for Christmas, coming home but not bringing the baby for his family to see.

My opinion (based on the odd decisions they have made such as the post Africa interviews) is that they are quite arrogant. They thought they would pop back, the family would accept whatever they wanted and let them get on with their lives, while maintaining the good bits.

They expected this would be a quick visit, and they could go back. I dont know who is advising them, but they are shit.

Their decisions to post on social media then be hypocrites, those interviews post Africa, the way they have done this. All handled badly. I suspect they are being advised by someone who doesnt really understand anything about the Royal family and presumed they would be allowed to quickly step back. They thought the Royal family would accept it to avoid a media circus. It didnt work out that way.

Just like the interviews last year didnt go their own way either.
Meghan can say she had no clue about how things were. Absolutely bollocks. At minimum Harry saw what happened to his mother and to Kate. Did they really think they were so beloved it wouldnt happen to them?

They dont need to work toward being financially independent. They could be, instantly.

Where is this racist abuse people keep referencing? Can anyone link to any racist stories in ANY newspaper. No. Because there aren't any. Saying criticising Meghan makes you racist undermines the work of anti-racists. People criticise Harry also, not because he is mixed race, but same reason as Meghan.....if you take millions of the public's money, you have to be accountable for your actions.

I don’t understand why you would leave an 8 month old baby behind when you have unlimited resources to bring nannies with etc, unless you were trying to make some sort of point.

If they want out; they should be all the way out! Bye bye!

crispysausagerolls
I don’t understand why you would leave an 8 month old baby behind

As an excuse to flee the country.
To flee the country to make Meghan look like a victim, fleeing persecution.
To look like a victim that needs refuge.
To look like they need refuge in the world from something, to justify leaving Britain in the first place.
To leave Britain under some outwardly "acceptable" reason instead of the real reason which is that they have behaved terribly, she is mentally twisted, Harry has lost the plot, and they are hated.

But it’s what happens in the royal family they were unusual taking Archie with them to South Africa

They weren't really. William & Kate have taken children overseas with them. Even Charles & Diana did it.