Homophobia

[Whatisthisfuckery]

Inspired by the racism thread, although not a taat I don’t think:

Do people think homophobia is still a problem in the UK? I’m genuinely interested in people’s responses.

I very much do as I experience it myself, although by no means everybody is homophobic, in fact not even most people, but a significant number nonetheless. AIBU?

People behaving like that in public are being inappropriate whatever their sexuality. Doing that in a childrens’ play area would make me incredibly suspicious of them.

Thatagain It’s amazing isn’t it, how these randomly unpleasant people manage to use words that indicate a dislike or disapproval of lesbians when they’ve shouted at me. That kid who spat at my feet and called me an ugly dyke, how coincidental he managed to randomly utter the completely arbitrary and made up word ‘dyke’ at me? It’s almost as if it was purposely done and he knew exactly what the meaning of the words he was saying meant. Thank you for correcting my thinking though. I’ll keep it in mind the next time I get insulted or something thrown in my direction in the street.

No means no! 1 word 1 meaning. Park is a name for a place so it's quite different. A genuine word has one meaning. As in the beginning there was word yes we have desrespectied word over time we use it to fit our wants and desires.

It absolutely still exists!

Most people who are homophobic don’t even realise it. I feel like it’s changed from having ‘dyke’ shouted at me in the streets as I used to get during my school years and now it’s more subtle.

Such as being asked “so who’s the man in the relationship”, “do your parents approve”, “do your kids get bullied” and then comments like “I never realised you were such a normal couple really”, “at least you don’t look obviously gay”.

All things that would never be said to a straight couple and yet somehow people think it’s acceptable and innocent. They often don’t recognise it as homophobia but it’s very much still there.

Thatagain you’ve lost me now. I have no idea what your point is.

For your information fundament used to mean arse. FWIW I think your fundamentalist view of language is coming right out of your fundament.

No means no! 1 word 1 meaning. Park is a name for a place so it's quite different. A genuine word has one meaning. As in the beginning there was word yes we have desrespectied word over time we use it to fit our wants and desires.

What is desrespectied?

What about book? You can read a book or book a table. Standard word with two meanings.

Thatagain

The word was Hebrew, and if you want to use theology, the Old Testament clearly explains that all the different languages of humanity came about as a punishment from God for building the tower of Babel.

You're speaking English. The word "park" is both a noun and a verb. Deal with it. It has nothing to do with the word of God.

What about book? You can read a book or book a table. Standard word with two meanings.

Don't bother. She'll just tell you that a book is a name of a thing so it's different. Some people are just being deliberately obtuse for the sake of it.

Lots of these women think that what they are doing doesnt count or as long as they arent shouting its okay.

This so much. You can see it in the posts on this thread, the automatic association of violence with homophobia, as if the violence only is what makes it homophobia. A person can be homophobic without raising a fist.

Regarding the bus lesbians: they were beaten up because they started a fight. One of the ladies got up and started punching one of the boys. Check the CCTV.

The harassment began in the first place because the boys targeted them for being lesbians. The physical attack may be because she threw the first punch but the whole incident begins with homophobia harassment.

P.S.
Genesis 2:19
"And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and broughtthemunto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, thatwasthe name thereof."

King James Bible

I think transphobia is the new homophobia. Trans people are treated as gay people were twenty years ago.

I'm a gay woman, living in a very gay friendly city and I can tell you that it IS a big issue and IS everywhere unfortunately.
I've been told:
I shouldn't be gay
I can be 'cured'
I'm not 'really' married as I married a woman
I'm selfish for having kids with a woman
I'm selfish for denying my kids a father
and on and on and on.
Sometimes people are openly homophobic but mainly it's insidious and subtle...

Sometimes people are openly homophobic but mainly it's insidious and subtle...

I agree. On MN alone I've seen way too many responses lamenting the lack of a 'father figure' in lesbian couples with children. These posts also tend to end in 'I'm sorry but those are the facts'.

Thanks. Good Christian knowledge in a Christian country. I've got the kj bible nice to see scripture

Some of the worst homophobia I've heard had come from gay men about lesbians. I used to spend a lot of time with gay men and then i made a few lesbian friends that i started spending time with and the comments i got from the men were absolutely shocking and sometimes disgustingly vile. Ie 'are you going to turn into a fat dyke now?' Comments about sexual acts etc. The lesbians certainly didn't seem to make that many comments about the men, at least not in my company.

I do wonder if this is toxic make socialization again?

So, you acknowledge that by the words of scripture humans have been making up words to fit humans' needs, then?

And it has nothing to do with disrespecting the word of God?

Yes I edge to want more then need though.

I think biphobia is far more common. Bisexuals are openly treated as delusional or attention seekers by both straight and gay people and are horrendously misrepresented in the media. It annoys me so much when a previous "straight" character gets with a man and is "suddenly gay" as if bisexuality doesn't exist!

*gets with a person of the same sex

I left school in the mid-90s. School never mentioned homosexuality at all. My parents never expressed any homophobic or anti-gay views.

Being born prior to the millennium did not doom people to being homophobic.

I left school in the mid-90s. School never mentioned homosexuality at all.

Section 28 banned any discussion about it until the mid noughties.

@Thatagain Why are you speaking modern English then? Since you're so against words evolving to 'suit people's wants', why not speak in Old English?

What Simon said, but 2000 for Scotland and 2003 for the rest of the uk according to wiki.

I left school in 2000 and wasn't taught anything about homosexuality existing by school. The term gay was used often as an insult/slur though.

I left school in 2012 and don't remember any education about homosexuality

My DD21 is gay but never makes a point of saying so, her argument is ‘do you introduce my sister as my straight daughter’ she’s very feminine/glamorous girl so not butch/obvious. She says she doesn’t need her sexual preference to be her identity, she gets chatted up my men all the time and let’s them down, she usually gets the ‘you don’t look gay’ which I guess is homophobic.
I don’t think society is overly homophobic I think people are weary of the lecturing and tiptoeing round in case offense is caused.
Be what you want to be but it doesn’t need to be the first thing I know about you, I think that’s what gets to people.