Harry and Meghan resigning?

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See link. News just announced.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/01/08/prince-harry-meghan-step-back-senior-members-royal-family-couple/

It does sound like they might be escaping from the public scrutiny and online abuse.

It seems as if she thinks she is bigger than the Royal Family.

How sad for him to seemingly have chosen to be estranged from his own family.

@Grandmi
Sussexroyal.com

Am I reading to much into probably. But it’s also a bit telling that their new website is .com don’t the total
Family use .uk usually?

God I love this drama.

Is it all completely out of the blue for the RF though or is it just that they’ve gone ahead and announced it at a really early stage?

I do worry what all this is doing to Prince Philip

They have blind sided the Queen.

It’s awful I think.

Yes, it's terrific fun for Republicans.

Has anyone seen the new website. Sussexroyal.com

The sheer amount of detail on “the way forward” is extraordinary. Just read it. Look under Funding and also Media. They reckon they’ve got it all worked out. Someone has spent a long time working on this - and without a word to his father or brother? Extraordinary. I wonder what the next few days will bring.

I think it'll be another baby, then Meghan will move back to the US permanently. This dividing One's time doesn't work after a kid starts school. Harry can trot after her if he likes at that point. She doesn't need him to increase her wealth, Meghan is already a brand much bigger than him.
For a pair who are stepping back, they sure know how to grab a headline.

Extraordinary indeed. He is a loose cannon.

Today 00:45 ARudeTerriblePerson

Yes, it's terrific fun for Republicans.

Indeed! 🥳

The new website has obviously been planned meticulously and it feels like they have come back from their 'holiday' and just delivered a huge swipe at the RF.

Harry used to have a huge amount of respect for the Queen. He has never much liked his role but he listened to his father and grandmother and tried to toe the line. All that seems to have gone out of the window. He seems to have changed into a different person.
It's hard to know whether he is genuinely suffering and unable to cope with the spotlight and increased number of engagements and this has led to a withdrawal. Or whether his new wife just can't take the heat and wants out on her own terms. Perhaps a bit of both. Certainly it seems that Harry is very much on the outside of his own family now which is pretty tragic really, particularly since Meghan is only close to her mother.
I hope the Queen decides to strip them of their titles and financial support, and lets them go and do their own thing on their own terms. They will still try to use the RF connections to make a living and promote themselves though.
It's really hard to compute.

@CameronG
Is it all completely out of the blue for the RF though or is it just that they’ve gone ahead and announced it at a really early stage?
I think (speculating, I have no idea really) that there had been some initial discussions with HMQ and maybe they weren’t getting anywhere with her so went ahead and announced it themselves. Still disrespectful, but to have done this with HMQ having no knowledge whatsoever would be just astounding.

I think they’ll lose the HRH but keep Sussex. Even Edward VIII remained a Duke.

They'll keep it for the same reason as well imo

If Edward had gone from Edward VIII to Prince Edward (or Prince David) then his wife would have been Princess David.

If Harry goes back to being HRH Prince Henry, or even just Prince Henry then his wife will become HRH Princess Henry (like Princess Michael of Kent)

Instantly the press will take Princess plus Meghan and she'll be Princess Meghan... Not a chance will the royals allow that to happen

I think they’ll lose the HRH but keep Sussex. Even Edward VIII remained a Duke.

Nope. Don't think so. They're fucked. That website, they have this all planned out, ready to go and wanted to railroad the Queen into it. It's so completely disrespectful to her, the institution of monarchy, our country and our constitution. I think they'll be told to walk away from everything or nothing.

That website basically says they are giving up 5% of the sovereign grant which funds their office (they are also quite sneaky and presented the cost of their office as their only expense) and in return they want to use their royal status to generate personal income for themselves and take time off whenever they feel like it, only do what they want to do. They're absolutely screwed. Finished.

Without the titles, there will only be an initial flurry of interest for a couple of years.

True. Also neither of them are in the first flush of youth and North America does not have a great record of opportunities for women over 40 in the media.

William and Kate do so little compared to Charles and Anne.

This is deliberate and another reason why Harry has been stupid. Both the Queen and Prince Charles recognise that they both made mistakes when they had young families, the Queen in particular regretted her distant relationship with her children and the time spent away from them.

The plan was that all of the four royals and the women in particular would have manageable workloads so they could have a proper family life. The idea was that the burden could be shared across the four of them to allow it. If H&M are copping out of royal life unless they feel like it then a greater burden is going to fall on William and Kate. Philip's gone, the Yorks are gone, the Queen is very elderly, Charles is 71, Anne is 69. The monarchy can't function with 3 elderly people, Sophie & Edward and the Sussexes just doing what they fancy between grifting in the states. That burden will fall on Kate and William while their children are still very small. I think William will have gone nuclear at that. It's a selfish act motivated it seems by money.

They're just screwed. Completely screwed.

It seems that Harry will do anything for his wife, and is somewhat under the thumb so to speak. I always thought that Meghan would wan't to live in Canada,or the USA, even when Harry said he wanted to live in South Africa.

Meghan is the go getter,and her Prince will follow.

I think William will be absolutely furious about this and it will knock any chance for a reconciliation on the head. Which is very sad.

I do agree with your analysis.

However, if they cut them off completely, you can be sure Meghan’s revenge will be a tell-all book and the rounds of the talk shows with juicy revelations about the royals.

They will likely be a deal involving a lump sum and a NDA.

I think if the gloves were off, Meghan could make life very difficult for all of them. This was, of course, predicted from the outset.

That was to amylox

It was clear from the Tom Bradby interview that she feels no loyalty to her royal in-laws whatsoever. It’s a delicate situation.

I think (speculating, I have no idea really) that there had been some initial discussions with HMQ and maybe they weren’t getting anywhere with her so went ahead and announced it themselves. Still disrespectful, but to have done this with HMQ having no knowledge whatsoever would be just astounding.

No, the palace has been very clear that they knew nothing and were presented with a fait accompli. As I said earlier, it's a tactic that Diana also (unsuccessfully) tried on the Queen re her HRH title.

What they're trying to claim now is that the Sun had the story and were going to publish so their hand was forced.

But we know that's bollocks:

Firstly, if they were taken by surprise why the high profile and well organised trip to Canada House before the announcement today? Why did the have a full plan including numbers and figures and an extremely polished and professional website with all the details ready to go? Why had they submitted their trademark applications in the last few days? It's obviously lies.

Secondly: All the tabloids were carrying the story this morning anyway. The mail had a double page spread on how it would supposedly happen, the logistics and the finances. The palace dismissed it as speculation, neither confirming nor denying. As the story was already out there, they could just have taken the same line, neither confirmed nor denied. So that's another lie.

Thirdly: If the case you suggest the Sussexes could have just told the truth. Said that they saw their role as spending a lot of time in the Commonwealth strengthening the RFs bonds there and were currently looking at the logistics with the Queen. No need to put the whole shebang they have out.

The quite obvious dishonesty just makes it worse.

I have to say there is a part of me that wonders about the timing of it too. If we had a Corbyn led government now which was busy reversing Brexit would they have taken this step? It's interesting they're not going to Trump's America either. Instead they're going to Trudeau's ultra woke Canada where paedophiles with menstrual fetishes can take women to court for refusing to wax their balls. And that's problematic too. We shouldn't know what their personal political beliefs are and if they impacted this decision. But people know what they are so will speculate.

Whole bloody thing is a car crash.

As I commented on the thread in chat, if this wasn't the Sussex's, and this being MN, there would be comments about red flags, with him seemingly changing personality from happy go lucky to dour woke; the rift with his brother; not appearing at family events; refusing family invitations; and seeing every one as a threat with a bunker mentality.

The monarchy can't function with 3 elderly people

What tosh

The amount that they have to do constitutionally is tiny
The rest is all just expensive window dressing.

Well, having looked at their webpage, their biggest mistake is to be so stupidly open.

I don’t think they’re actually going to do all that much differently. They will do fewer engagements for HM and give up that 5% cost covering. But they’ll continue all their charitable engagements, probably do most of the work totally privately (eg visit to the Hubb yesterday and the NT today). They’ll also build up the foundation by fundraising the American way.

They’ll buy a holiday home in Vancouver (lovely city, very woke) and spend American/Canadian holidays there. Children will be educated and raised mostly in the UK. Harry is fond of and very attached to HM, Charles, William it seems. He’s a Loyal patriot, and also knows no different. Can’t blame the man for wanting to bust out of the restraints a bit though.

I think there’s a lot of hoopla because of the fanfare of A Big Announcement. I don’t think they’re actually going to do all that much differently.

We live in an era of falsehoods. The website is there to put right some of the untruths written about them in the media, it seems. But it’s just cringe worthily awful. They come across as wounded, defensive, angry, aggrieved. Meanwhile, the people they supposedly do charitable work for use food banks, are maimed for life, have been victims of terrorist attacks, are suffering generations of poverty and institutional racism etc etc. They feel an affinity with these people because of their wounds, but they really have NO IDEA. None at all.

Honestly, it’s almost always best to say nothing.