To ask if you think there will be a second coming?

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This is inspired by the new Netflix show Messiah, about a second coming.

I really hope this doesn’t upset or offend anyone and people can share their beliefs and thoughts openly and without prejudice or judgement as I know this can be very sensitive for some people.

Following on from —binge— watching this series I did a bit of googling and it seems both Christian and Muslim regions predict this. (Not researched if any others do yet)

I’m not very well informed about different regions but the concept of this programme has really interested me, I find it fascinating that this could, maybe? actually happen!

Do you think there could be a second coming?!

(And what would it actually mean for the world? A rise in consciousness? Mass healing???)

YABU - no don't be so daft!
YANBU - yes, this could happen, why not?!

There is so much that is inexplicable which happens when patients die, that it is very hard to believe that there isn't something more after death.

Well, it's human nature to try and explain away what we don't understand, hence diseases often being blamed on 'sorcery' in the past.

I always wonder whether monkeys go to heaven. If not, at what point were we sufficiently human enough to qualify? Or are we saying we actually came from Adam's rib?

Most historians accept Jesus was a real man. In terms of evidence you really need to think about what we consider to be evidence of historical figures from a couple of thousand years ago.
The earliest sources which reference Jesus are Christian sources which were written around 25 years AD by a person who had first hand knowledge of some of the apostle.
However within decades of his death there are also acknowledgements that a man named Jesus existed, that he was executed under Pilots and mention of his brother James by reliable Jewish and Roman historical sources.
As historical evidence this is considered pretty sound. Much stronger evidence than for the existence of king Arthur for example, who allegedly lived 500 years later.
I'm an atheist btw

The second coming is judgement day. I am looking forward to it.

Thank you for the reply sirching
It's all so fascinating and spooky at the same time especially the nursing assistant that saw the lady sitting in the lounge.
the staff couldn't all have been overly tried, stressed, hallucinating, drunk or high or making it up as I'm sure others will suggest to try and discredit these experiences.

Why are you looking foward to it Thatagain?

I've had religious delusions. God was sending me messages that my DS was the next messiah.

I've not heard back from him since I started on antipsychotics

@SirChing have you any more examples that there may be an afterlife? I find it very interesting.

I'm not optimistic. If so it'll be more in the sense of a general realisation that we're destroying our planet & only home. Currently travel to other worlds is still way into the realms of science fiction, so we need to take care of this planet, not keep poisoning & overcrowding it as if our descendants will have so many attractive alternatives open to them.

Also, I'm not entirely sure I believe in a God. Because of paedophilia. Why would God allow this?

@Thatagain. I assume you're a believer and that you believe you'll be saved while many of us suffer a terrible death. This is a worrying paradox presented by the religion of Love.

Stephen Fry on God/ The Meaning of Life/ Gay Byrne/RTE youutube.
I’m suggested this video upthread.
Really, really worth a watch.

Thatagain
Why ever would you look forward to ‘judgement day’??
Is it because you think you’re right and nobody heeds you ?

@whatlouisesaid - Sources for there being no contemporary references to Jesus ever existing? There are none. There are no contemporary references to him existing. If you think you have one, do let the world know...

There was a lady who used to be admitted following suicide bids. One day, a nursing assistant was going round and checking on everyone, and asked when this lady had been admitted. She hadn't. She had died the day before. The nursing assistant saw her sat in the patients lounge.

No, the assistant saw someone she mistook for this lady.

When I worked with dementia patients, one lady used to be scared of a lady that only she could see, but she said that her husband always protected her from the lady. The lady's husband had died years before. I always thought she was telling the truth.

How could she be telling the truth about a dead person protecting her from an imaginary person?

A colleague reported that there was a chap who passed away on a very snowy night. Before he died he kept sitting and gesturing to the window opposite his bed. After he died, there were footsteps in the snow walking away, underneath where the window was, but no footsteps walking to the window.

If this happened, footsteps walking to the window got covered up by snow. Why would a spirit leave footprints?

Exactly.
All easily explained.
The mystery for me is the amount of 'Ladies' in that place.
I hope they kept the tiaras well locked up 🤣

@Luckystar777 I do but it's a bit too meaningful to me to put here. It's to do with seeing my grandad and knowing he was at peace and happy after he died.

@mawbroon That really made me laugh

@roisinagusniamh Yes, the women there preferred to be called ladies, so that's what we called them. Carry on mocking elderly ladies with dementia though!

My mother is an elderly woman with dementia and prefers to be called a woman. As do many elderly women I know.
What do the men prefer to be called then?
Gentlemen or chaps??

PS; I’m mocking you,not the elderly!

@Equanimitas You can obviously feel free to explain everything away like that if you like.

Presumably though, if life after death doesn't exist, you wouldn't give two hoots if the nursing staff are rough with the body of any of your family members who die is hospital? After all, if the person no longer exists in any way, and can't know they are being manhandled, their dignity can't really be violated can it?

But we don't treat bodies like that. We treat them with reverence and respect, talking to the person as if they can hear us and explaining what we are doing. Why? Because so many of us believe they can.

@roisinagusniamh You are mocking me. What an absolute delight you are. Don't worry, I would never make the mistake of being inaccurate and calling you a lady.

Eh, that’s because I’m not a lady, nor are you.
We are women.
So what do you call the men in your workplace?

@roisinagusniamh People were called what they preferred to be called. We found that most of the men liked to be called gentlemen, gents or chaps, and most of the women preferred ladies.

It could well be a regional thing have no idea, but frankly, if your mum wanted to be called woman, Madame or Duchess, I would do it. Because what SHE wants would matter most, and that is the essence of patient care. Feel free to mock that, but is says so much more about you than it does about me.

@SirChing You're right, I agree with you it's whatever someone prefers to be called. There is nothing wrong with referring to someone as a lady at all! @Roisinagusniamh just sounds pathetic!

@Butterfly98 Thank you, and I agree wholeheartedly

Sorry to have upset you so much SirChing.
My mum is a woman as are you and me.
Calling her anything other than her first name or, indeed, Mrs Whatever would offend her.
Best ask the elderly person how they would like to be addressed instead of assuming they all want to be called ladies/chaps would show more respect and show they are seen as individuals.