To think my daughter shouldn't have to share a room with a boy!

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Because if you are in Oxfordshire, the council thinks schools should facilitate mixed sex dorm rooms for residential trips, as well as allowing mixed sex loos, changing rooms and sports.

It's on this thread thread

But how would those committing the violence know they are trans without ‘looking in their underwear’?

Oh that has made me chuckle. 😁

they matter more was the secret message hidden in that seemingly random series of rants.

Wasn't all that coded Binterested but yes I agree. That was the message. Well, fuck that.

Also, that poster is not coming from a healthy place in their view of women. It's easy to take the piss online, but it might be less funny for the women who encounter Ma'am Angry in real life.

Regardless of whether one agrees or not, there is no safeguarding legislation requiring boys and girls to be separated in accommodation on trips.

I remember sharing a dorm style room, several beds with boys when I went on trip back in the early 90s. I was 8.... even then I felt uncomfortable though. No one was identifying as anything other than what they were born as then though.

Oh that has made me chuckle.

Me too, T0tallyFuckedUpFamily.

Very glad to have a laugh, as one poster's comments have left a very nasty taste in my mouth. Very nasty indeed. < not envy.

Regardless of whether one agrees or not, there is no safeguarding legislation requiring boys and girls to be separated in accommodation on trips.

Well I'm not sure you can actually legislate, because what about families?

As far as I'm aware though all the information from child safeguarding organisations is that you segregate over the age of eight.

I bet you'd love to be the person testing all the little kids by looking in their underwear to make sure.

Dark alley and person backing you into corner or someone kicking in your toilet door or grabbing your breasts at the sinks?

I can imagine you all around chasing a little kid to try and pull down their undies

The above are possibly the most disturbing comments I have ever read on MN.

You successfully turned someone who didn't know or care much about it to someone fully advocating for trans people especially against cis women.

I doubt many women would want you on their team so that's probably for the best really.

If anyone wants to reD the letter which went to OCC you can find it here which covers the legal and safeguarding points of the case.

I still do not understand why people who yearn to be female, say they are female, spend more time on the assertion they are female in a year than most women bother to in a lifetime, so hate and resent people who are female.

You'd think they would be in favour of people who are of the sex they want to be, but apparently not.

Men who apparently loathe and despise women have been around for centuries, but it seems perverse to go to all that trouble and pain and expense to become recognised as something you loathe and despise.

... it is very mysterious.

And in case you missed it. Here are some other gems from the guidance

https://twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1213115478647934976?s=20

Why? What's your daughter going to do to the boy?
Can't you keep this stuff over in the Feminist board?

I sure do love that shade of grey in the rock.

Why? What's your daughter going to do to the boy?

What boy are you talking about?

Can't you keep this stuff over in the Feminist board?

No one is forcing you to read it, but if you’re going to comment, why not read the thread first?

What boy are you talking about?

The boy in the OP, I think.

I hope this thread stays up. It is indeed very disturbing stuff.

The boy in the OP, I think

Right. Tel, you what. I promise I’ll be happy to answer whatever questions you ask, once your certain what your question is referring to. But you’ll have to read the full thread in order to understand the issues.

Excuse my spelling mistakes.

Spruce this isn't just a feminist issue. It's a safeguarding one. If you are going to get involved in the discussion please read the twitter thread and solicitors letter I linked to.

One of the claimants in the case is a 13 year old. Another is a teacher, another a parent. This is a parenting forum, I'm sharing to alert parents.

Can't you keep this stuff over in the Feminist board?

Nope. As many people as possible need to see this.

Can't you keep this stuff over in the Feminist board?

Some people would very much like this ‘stuff’ contained and the lid firmly down. Why is that I wonder?

So let me guess

No one can tell that someones trans but trans people are getting beaten up in mens loos even though most men arent violent and yet they arent getting beaten up in gender neutral toilets containing the same men that apparently beat them up in the mens although a trans woman in the mens allegedly makes it a gender neutral toilet which they are ok with?

Oh and please stop looking in kids pants thats just creepy.

Can't you keep this stuff over in the Feminist board?

Oh right, I see..nothing to see here, off for my re-education..please no one talk about any of this

This isn’t the signal of automatic mixed dorms, is it? A trans girl will be allowed to sleep in a girls dorm with the usual supervision that kids have on residentials.

Usual supervision on residentials which segregate girls and boys for sleeping/bathing/changing is I’m presuming different from mixed sex supervision.

Mixed sex arrangements are stated such as Scouts. Parents and children are aware.

Mixed sex which is not clearly disclosed along with a separate risk assessment and changes made to safeguarding practice is something different.