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To think my daughter shouldn't have to share a room with a boy!

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GColdtimer · 03/01/2020 16:15

Because if you are in Oxfordshire, the council thinks schools should facilitate mixed sex dorm rooms for residential trips, as well as allowing mixed sex loos, changing rooms and sports.

It's on this thread thread

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GailCindy · 04/01/2020 22:07

@T0tallyFuckedUpFamily

I'm sorry that real research opposes your hysteria. That often puts a dampner on the chronically deluded. But goodnight anyway. Dpon't hjave any nightmares about big bad cocks out to get you and your kids, now. And go find that therapist. You need it¬! your kids deserve a healthy mum who wont terrify them and poison their relationships with their bigotry.

DickKerrLadies · 04/01/2020 22:08

Anyway Gail, it appears you missed this post so I'll helpfully repeat it for you. You're welcome.

Who are trans women not safe from then? It can't be men because you just said that men aren't a threat? But then you said that transwomen are at risk if they use male spaces? But not from males?

Cushycat · 04/01/2020 22:09

Gail you know when you keep saying things like 'big bad cocks' you sound like an aggressive, sexually frustrated, woman hating....oh, never mind.

PurpleCrowbar · 04/01/2020 22:09

Has your mum told you she's switching off the router, Gail? Shame.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 04/01/2020 22:11

I’m sorry that real research opposes your hysteria.

I’m still waiting for that peer reviewed independent research that has no links to pro trans organisations. Would you mind posting it before you go to bed? Not the earlier stuff that does not actually have peer reviewed studies, but the actual genuine research. There’s a dear.

Cushycat · 04/01/2020 22:12

Think his mum has cut him off.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 04/01/2020 22:12

Has your mum told you she's switching off the router, Gail? Shame.

🤣

PityParty4one · 04/01/2020 22:13

So what we have do far from Gail is:

Rape victims are hysterical and pathetic.
Males in females spaces are no risk to females.
TW are at risk from males but cis women are not.
Child rape is ok to be mocked.
Calling women various mysogonistic slurs is fine but misgendering someone is a vile crime.
Rape didn't exist until recently.
Sex segregation was invented for modesty and religious purposes only.
Children do not need boundaries or safeguards.
Women who have boundaries hate all men and live in fear all the time...and are hysterical bigots.

Wow you are a bloody genius Fail oops sorry Gail

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 04/01/2020 22:13

Think his mum has cut him off.

Unlike over 85% of......oh never mind.

DickKerrLadies · 04/01/2020 22:15

Sounds about right PityParty although I think there was also a variation on 'this never happens but if it did they're just isolated incidents'.

PityParty4one · 04/01/2020 22:16

Oops yep missed that gem.

Fairenuff · 04/01/2020 22:17

In case you missed it, please do check out this thread , page 6 onwards and in particular the lovely shade of grey of the rock.

SophoclesTheFox · 04/01/2020 22:19

Blimey flip, Gail, mate, have a cuppa and a nap, mate, you’re all over the place.

Nasty, nasty stuff. But thanks for the insight.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/01/2020 22:21

Is anyone else wondering what one of the posters has been drinking? The coherence level has been falling for several pages now.

DodoPatrol · 04/01/2020 22:25

I think Gail is a spoof. Doesn’t ring true somehow.

PityParty4one · 04/01/2020 22:26

I dont think its drink related I think that's their actual mindset.
Quite worrying really.

CatalogueUniverse · 04/01/2020 22:30

Transwomen more at risk from male violence than women- no. This is not true. I think FairPlay for women break this down.

So we all recognise that there are violent and abusive men who prey on women, children and transwomen.

So the solution to this is to make all spaces mixed sex which means that no one challenges anyone on whether they should be there as passing is not required as bigoted. Which I do agree with tbh, passing should not be the definition of trans.

So how exactly is anyone protected from the abusive men in these mixed sex spaces? I’d really like to know how that works.

I do wonder if women are supposed to be human shields.

Binterested · 04/01/2020 22:32

they matter more was the secret message hidden in that seemingly random series of rants.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 04/01/2020 22:36

Thank you Farenuff. I see that our creepy little visitor really tried their best to derail that thread too.

TalkingintheDark · 04/01/2020 22:38

LittleDragonGirl
Where have I miscorrectly used socialisation?

Tbf, you didn’t actually use the word, but it was implied here:

A male transitioning to female would instead of associaiting from the fathers or male role model would instead associate and learn from the mother or female role models. The same way a biologically assigned male or female would.

I think you’re entirely wrong about this. A male who “identifies as female” learns just as deeply as any other male that those of the male sex take precedence over those of the female sex. Believing yourself entitled to appropriate womanhood as if it were just an identity rather than a material reality, and violate the boundaries of women and girls en masse, is to me a clear demonstration of that entitlement.

I don’t believe for a second that the trans rights movement would have gained a hundredth (a thousandth?) of the traction it has if it had been focused on the “rights” of biologically female people to identify as male, and led by them.

The fact that male primogeniture was specifically excluded from the GRA here in the UK is just one piece of evidence that backs that up. The establishment knows full well that only a person born with a penis is actually male when it comes to matters of power and wealth.

I realise that you’ve had something of an enlightenment over the course of this thread, so fair play to you for acknowledging that you didn’t know what is actually going on with this issue and that you see it somewhat differently now.

I have to say I think your idea that all biologically male trans people grow up identifying with their mothers is also wildly inaccurate and just not borne out by the male pattern behaviour, unabashed male entitlement and often virulent misogyny displayed by so many male trans rights activists.

Stick around. You may be surprised at what else you learn here.

Justanotherlurker · 04/01/2020 22:39

This is quite an interesting physiological debate, look through similar threads from a decade ago with the roles reversed and it highlights the culture war.

I am glad this and previous threads are being saved externally for future generations.

PityParty4one · 04/01/2020 22:40

Yep just read that thread Fair and agree with T0tally that derailing is their game.

They have derailed this thread but on the positive anyone reading will see what a vile mindset this person has and that the safety and protection of children is not a concern to them.

rodgmum · 04/01/2020 22:40

I’m wondering if they are one of the regular suspects from Twitter. There’s a handful who always pop up and rant in a very similar style. Sadly they are very very real.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 04/01/2020 22:45

Gail does seem very familiar.

jellyfrizz · 04/01/2020 22:49

Because their trans ID makes them much more at risk of violence BASED ON THAT than your average women does of being sexcually assaulted by a stranger.

? But how would those committing the violence know they are trans without ‘looking in their underwear’?

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