Cyprus is no longer a safe place for (young, single) women to holiday?

[Kraai]

The teen went back to her ONS's room for consensual sex. When there, 11 of his mates burst in and filmed while three of them then raped her. She went to the police and reported it. They were detained. They said it was consensual and was "with love" (I kid you not!). She was interviewed at length with no legal representation and the police decided she was lying. She was then charged with the crime of making up a crime and has been unable to come home since the summer. The guys were all allowed to return to Israel where some of them have since said things indicating she wasn't lying at all and I'm pretty sure the video was shared (from memory, which may be wrong). She's had psychological evaluation saying she's suffering badly from PTSD.

It's worth noting that the Cyprus is a very popular destination for young Israelis to let off steam before they start national service and there's a strong political tie between the two.

So, AIBU to say that Cyprus is no longer a safe destination for young woman? If the worst happens to you and you report it and the police think you're not a credible witness, YOU will end up in jail. Knowing how traumatic reporting something like a stolen wallet in a foreign police station can be, the idea that a woman would be interviewed without legal representation in a state of severe distress, however that manifests, and then not believed and charged means that men have been given free rein to rape in Cyprus. Especially if it's in a potential "grey zone".

https://www.bbc.com/news/videoandd_audio/headlines/50944483/cyprus-rape-claim-case-it-s-a-very-worrying-conviction

[FrogsFrogs]

I have also felt moved by the show of support from women from various countries.
I am glad she is appealing and wish her strength.

[Italiangreyhound]

I wish her all the very best. It's just a horrific case.

The idea some males think this is what women want is so frightening.

[busybarbara]

Why just young single women? Surely any women. Rapists are hardly picky or care if a woman has a boyfriend or not.

[MissEliza]

I really admire the women from Israel who travelled to Cyprus to give their support. I hope that offers some comfort.

[Vilanelle]

Is it true that one of the rapists is now planning to sue HER?

[Devereux1]

Vilanelle
Is it true that one of the rapists is now planning to sue HER?

No. It's true that one of the men she accused, who was proven not to have been present let alone be a rapist, by being photographed in a selfie in bed with his girlfriend at another hotel location at the time, is now planning to sue her.

I don't know exactly what she said about him personally, other than accuse him, but I would think his case is probably more against the police.

[fridgegrazer]

I thought she didn't know who had raped her because she couldn't see them and that the names were given to the police by the boy she did agree to have sex with. In which case perhaps he should sue his friend.

[Datun]

I thought she didn't know who had raped her because she couldn't see them and that the names were given to the police by the boy she did agree to have sex with.

Indeed. This is what has been reported.

The man she was having a relationship with apparently was kneeling on her shoulders facing her. She had little chance to identify anyone, it would seem.

In any case, it is he who has identified the other twelve. Not her.

So I've no idea what that man is going to sue her for exactly.

[fridgegrazer]

So I've no idea what that man is going to sue her for exactly.

Maybe so he can join in all the hate. Oh I do hope her appeal is successful - even if they are never brought to trial.

[SisterAgatha]

I am sure Cyprus will find a way to pin it on her thoigh.

[Toorahtoorahaye]

“Why just young single women? Surely any women. Rapists are hardly picky or care if a woman has a boyfriend or not.”

Because in many places young women without a male present are open game - even bookkng into a hotel or walking down the street or on a public bus. The harassment can be outrageous- much more so than the UK. The difference in attitudes and treatment when having a man present can be huge

[SillyCryptid]

Won't put me off visiting Cyprus. I go every year and feel safer there than here in the UK. There is always a police presence in the resort we go to, patrolling every night, making sure everyone is safe.

[VAB]

It’s never been safe. I went in 1999 and had THREE separate incidents that were frightening! That was in one week - big groups of men basically thinking they could do whatever wanted - following, trapping, grabbing etc. Thankfully we could physically fight back, but didn’t report 😥 I 100% believe this poor poor girl. 💔

[kirinm]

I respond to you because your posts claim you want evidence and then you deliberately ignore the evidence because it suits your agenda to disbelieve the girl at all costs. I call you out on it. I've done the same to several people on here.

She didn't report the boys - that much has been clear from the outset. Why did you suggest that the guy who is threatening to sue her was accused by her? You've said you've read lots of reports saying various things but never linked to them.

[MaxNormal]

Devereux1 lies. She wasn't even the one who named him, being unable to see properly and given that most of these attackers were strangers to her. He was rounded up as being part of that particular group.
Just like she wasn't even the kind to report her rape, that was the doctor.
Youvd got a horrible agenda.

[Devereux1]

kirinm
The post which you refer to was in response to someone else asking a question about one of the rapists wanting to sue her. Why have you not corrected that poster for referring to a man who was photographed in bed with his girlfriend at the time of the incident and has not been charged let alone found guilty of any crime, as a rapist?

She didn't report the boys - that much has been clear from the outset
There has been so many reports on this. I have read reports which have said she did, some that she said she was raped by up to 12 men, some say she doesn't know how many, some which say she described the group.

I said very clearly in my post I don't know exactly what she said about him personally. I also said very clearly that this man's case is surely against the police, not the woman. And if it were the boyfriend who named the man who is now planning to sue her, as Datun said, I'd agree - he should sue the boyfriend, not the woman. Why do you keep trying to find something awful in some people's posts. What is wrong with you?

[AryaStarkWolf]

Won't put me off visiting Cyprus. I go every year and feel safer there than here in the UK. There is always a police presence in the resort we go to, patrolling every night, making sure everyone is safe.

It would put me off Cyprus because of the injustice and misogyny of it all rather than a safety POV, a boycott I suppose

[kirinm]

You claimed she had accused him twice in that one post. Which part of saying she had accused him is not you suggesting she was responsible for their arrest?

Can you please link to the reports you've read?

[Devereux1]

kirinm
Which part of saying she had accused him is not you suggesting she was responsible for their arrest?

The part that said I don't know exactly what she said about him personally and more specifically and glaringly obviously I would think his case is probably more against the police.

Like I said twice before. As for links, there have been loads of them You're clearly very invested in this case and have read loads too. Why do you keep asking posters to post specific links to what they've read? Why kirinm are you desperate to harrass other posters who dare ask questions or say anything who dont say "100% 12 men are rapists".

Do you think that the man who is thinking of suing the woman is a rapist?

[Devereux1]

kirinm .

[RufusthebewiIderedreindeer]

I don't know exactly what she said about him personally, other than accuse him, but I would think his case is probably more against the police

As other have said she didn’t accuse him based on most of the reporting...however i do agree that his case is probably more against the police