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Jolyon Maugham should be prosecuted for killing a fox

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halocompanach · 26/12/2019 11:41

Jolyon Maugham QC stating on twitter that he has clubbed to death a fox rather than calling for help to free it from netting in his garden.

Jolyon Maugham should be prosecuted for killing a fox
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koshkat · 27/12/2019 10:21

We have been keeping chickens for over 15 years and no fox attacks yet. We did lose two a few years back but that that was a dog attack (ill trained farm dogs on the loose). We are deeply rural and have several dogs which helps to keep foxes away. My girls have over an acre to wander about in and are very happy. They are locked up safely at dusk.

Tbh I see foxes very rarely as they are so secretive in the country which I think is different to urban foxes. It is grim but local farmers shoot them on sight so I suppose they keep a low profile.

So sorry about your turkey, that must have been horrible to see.

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 27/12/2019 10:25

Urban foxes have no secrecy about them whatsoever! They like to sit in my garden just out of my dog's reach and watch him bark at them. I see them happily trotting down the road during the day too.

koshkat · 27/12/2019 10:30

Yes I have heard this! Amazing that your dog doesn't phase them either - they must be very bold.

I love it when I see a fox but it's normally when night driving and they flash across a lane.

littlemeitslyn · 27/12/2019 10:30

Don't presume John B

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 27/12/2019 10:34

My dog has to be on a long lead in the garden (ironically because the foxes regularly destroy the fences). They know how far down the garden he can get and place themselves accordingly. Wankers. 😂 They occasionally get a shock if the lead snaps

Alsohuman · 27/12/2019 10:35

there will be people (and papers) in this country who think that fox hunting should be brought back, who have no problem with foxes being hunted down in the wild and savaged by dogs and who have had editorials about supporting fox hunting - they will be having a go at him for what he did to this fox, because he tried to stop Brexit

The Telegraph has done exactly that today. There’s an article about fox hunting and one about JM with the emphasis on Brexit.

chomalungma · 27/12/2019 10:41

The Telegraph has done exactly that today. There’s an article about fox hunting and one about JM with the emphasis on Brexit

Grin
Alsohuman · 27/12/2019 10:45

I know. So predictable, wasn’t it?

Devereux1 · 27/12/2019 10:49

I mentioned just a few days ago how I thought he was losing the plot.
I have just heard what he did and how he tweeted about it.

I can't even begin to fathom what kind of sick mind does what he has done.

Pan2 · 27/12/2019 10:52

It's a Brexit story isn't it?

Pan2 · 27/12/2019 10:52

Shouldn't this be in the Brexit section of MN?

chomalungma · 27/12/2019 10:56

It's a Brexit story isn't it

He's also involved in trans activism - so maybe in FWR as well?

Dapplegrey · 27/12/2019 10:57

So sorry about your turkey, that must have been horrible to see.

Thank you Koshkat.
Yes, it was very upsetting as she was very sweet and used to come into the kitchen and sit on our laps.
One day we’ll get another one but first we’ll have to roof over the enclosure with wire.

YellaHumberElla · 27/12/2019 11:03

There once was a lawyer of tax
Whose judgement of gender was lax
He dispatched with a bat
A poor fox, what a prat
But said Joly, in a Kimono, it’s Pro Bono

Pan2 · 27/12/2019 11:04

Is he involved in transactivism? I do follow him on twitter for the constitutional stuff/Brexit, and am aware he has made comments which support self-ID and the rest, and one which questioned IF women's voices were really NOT being heard. Is this the 'transactivism'?

Equanimitas · 27/12/2019 11:17

He's now said on twitter that it's a baseball bat he bought to deter intruders, thus adding intent. For somebody who should be well versed in the law he's remarkably stupid.

If you were well versed in the law, OP, you would know that this doesn't prove intent

You would also know that that is irrelevant. I suspect he would say he fully intended to kill the fox, as per RSPCA advice, and that no offence has been committed.

Equanimitas · 27/12/2019 11:21

The RSPCA will want the body of the fox to determine how the poor creature was killed and if he cannot produce it...what then?

That's their problem. If they want to prosecute - and there is no indication that they do - it's up to them to prove their case.

Equanimitas · 27/12/2019 11:22

Tweet from last May: "I do actually pick off rabbits with an air rifle and gut them and casserole them; wonder if there's a BBQ recipe?"

Sorry but he comes across as a complete whack job

And yet country dwellers and people who shoot and fish do this all the time. Are they whack jobs?

PegasusReturns · 27/12/2019 11:25

Tweet by the Sunday Sport is brilliant Grin

Jolyon Maugham should be prosecuted for killing a fox
vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 27/12/2019 11:30

Five years of hard wear on Mrs M's kimono?

Sounds like it was a really good value buy.

CharlotteMD · 27/12/2019 11:32

But why would you put it on your Twitter feed , bizarre !.

countrygirl99 · 27/12/2019 11:34

Koshkat the rural foxes round our way are far from shy. I see them most weeks, I even have a photo of my horse sniffing one that just sat and watched as I turned him out. I've had one wander past me with someone elses chicken in its mouth, surprisingly unbothered by my presence. Every spring we have posts on the village Facebook page from people who have recently moved from town and are horrified to discover that foxes will take their pet chickens in broad daylight even though they are at home. They hate the advice to build a run and usually give up chickens after the 3rd slaughter, which now the fox knows where an easy dinner can be found takes a couple of weeks. Mine are in a lovely big pen built like Fort Knox so although I can see the spoor round the pen every time it snows the beggars can't get in.

AutumnRose1 · 27/12/2019 11:34

Devereux1 why did you think he was losing the plot a few days ago?

TheTinselrati · 27/12/2019 11:49

I can't find the tweet now (& JM blocked me - he routinely blocks GC women) but this isn't the first time he's tweeted about Going into the garden wearing his wife's kimono with a baseball bat to deal with a fox.

He's known his hen house had security issues for some time now but didn't sort it out.

BlaueLagune · 27/12/2019 12:18

there will be people (and papers) in this country who think that fox hunting should be brought back, who have no problem with foxes being hunted down in the wild and savaged by dogs and who have had editorials about supporting fox hunting - they will be having a go at him for what he did to this fox, because he tried to stop Brexit

Absolutely. I think he was an idiot to do what he did (and even more stupid to post it on Twitter - it's amazing how stupid intelligent people can be) but I also think most of the vitriol is coming because of his views on Brexit (and trans people).

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