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Jolyon Maugham should be prosecuted for killing a fox

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halocompanach · 26/12/2019 11:41

Jolyon Maugham QC stating on twitter that he has clubbed to death a fox rather than calling for help to free it from netting in his garden.

Jolyon Maugham should be prosecuted for killing a fox

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halocompanach · 26/12/2019 21:32

Blimey, he's gone from being a vile misogynist to a cute-furry-animal murderer to a grim exhibitionist pervert in the course of an evening grin

If the cap fits.... !

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ThunderboltandLightning · 26/12/2019 21:47

Blimey, he's gone from being a vile misogynist to a cute-furry-animal murderer to a grim exhibitionist pervert in the course of an evening

I don't see that these three are in any way mutually exclusive.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 26/12/2019 22:04

@chomalungma What do his other views have to do with killing a fox?

Well:

There is a link between animal cruelty and domestic violence/child abuse.

He has tweeted twice, publicly, to his tens of thousands of followers, about running outside in his wife's "too small" kimono either to kill a fox or attempt to kill one.

He is a loud and aggressive campaigner for letting men into women's spaces, a policy which is a gift to domestic and child abusers.

I think there's a lot of reasons the two topics are related, don't you?

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 26/12/2019 22:12

Tweet from last May: "I do actually pick off rabbits with an air rifle and gut them and casserole them; wonder if there's a BBQ recipe?"

Sorry but he comes across as a complete whack job.

Yes, I'm a meat eater; no, I don't enjoy killing animals, gutting them and tweeting about it.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 26/12/2019 22:13

twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1001186257488228352?s=20

Jillyhilly · 27/12/2019 01:02

Wow. Looks like this is going to be all over the press tomorrow morning, front page. Everyone is picking it up.

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halocompanach · 27/12/2019 01:12

It'll be interesting to see what approach they take - animal welfare, sexual preferences, or supporting the right to kill foxes.

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AwakeAmbs · 27/12/2019 01:24

Please lock this scum up

KareyHunt · 27/12/2019 02:05

It'll be interesting to see what approach they take - animal welfare, sexual preferences, or supporting the right to kill foxes.

Telegraph: proof that remoaners are perverts and criminals (It's a shame he's not a muslim really.)

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 27/12/2019 08:34

Playing out sexual fantasies online is never a good move

Making shit up about someone and posting it on MN is never a good move. Especially if they're a QC.

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 27/12/2019 08:35

The fact that he has a gun and didn't feel that he could use it in London kind of makes me question whether he should really have it. You either learn how to shoot things properly and safely or you have no business with a gun.

It has nothing to do with "using it safely" and everything to do with what the result of someone hearing gunshots in London would be. The police would be there in a shot.

chomalungma · 27/12/2019 09:17

What I kind of find ironic about this story is that there will be people (and papers) in this country who think that fox hunting should be brought back, who have no problem with foxes being hunted down in the wild and savaged by dogs and who have had editorials about supporting fox hunting - they will be having a go at him for what he did to this fox, because he tried to stop Brexit.

I am sure the Daily Mail are massive supporters of fox hunting - but would have an issue with him for killing a fox because he tried to stop Brexit. Cognitive dissonance, anyone?

Jenpop234 · 27/12/2019 09:24

He's clearly a sadist and a violent person. However I eat meat so don't feel that's any worse tbf. Animals are killed for food and kept in shitty conditions every day.

koshkat · 27/12/2019 09:30

He has tweeted twice, publicly, to his tens of thousands of followers, about running outside in his wife's "too small" kimono either to kill a fox or attempt to kill one.

This is so very strange. The RSPCA will want the body of the fox to determine how the poor creature was killed and if he cannot produce it...what then?
Is this just a bizarre fantasy that he has let stray in to his 'real' life? The 'too small' aspect of his wife's clothing is a detail which is quite telling, no?
Whichever way you look at this he comes out badly.

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 27/12/2019 09:42

the too small' aspect of his wife's clothing is a detail which is quite telling, no?

No. I imagine it was for comic effect.

I'm not defending him at all but people claiming he is doing this for some kind of sexual gratification is just utterly ridiculous.

Also, did no one learn anything from the MN/Gina Ford fiasco a good few years ago??

LakieLady · 27/12/2019 09:43

His gun licence will specify where the gun must be kept, and it's unlikely to be his London address. If you're caught keeping a gun in a place or manner other than that specified in the licence, you are likely to lose your firearms licence and possibly face prosecution.

A former neighbour of mine couldn't get permission to keep his rifle (he was licensed to cull deer) in his home in our rural town, although he was allowed to keep his shotguns there.

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halocompanach · 27/12/2019 09:57

Making shit up about someone and posting it on MN is never a good move.

He was the one who tweeted twice about wearing his wife's kimono whilst killing a fox.

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koshkat · 27/12/2019 10:00

And has referred to the kimono as far back as 2014!

lowlandLucky · 27/12/2019 10:02

A Fox doesnt kill just to eat, it will kill every hen. The are a bloody pest

koshkat · 27/12/2019 10:06

They kill every hen and would naturally store the rest so that they have 'larders' to return to. That is what they do. Don't like it? Protect your hens better. Mine free range and I know that there is a small risk of a fox attack and if that happens it will be on me. However my girls quality of life is vastly better when they have a large area to scratch about in.

Wild animals are not 'pests' and humans need to reframe the way they view our wonderful native wildlife species - the arrogance of humanity is destroying the planet.

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halocompanach · 27/12/2019 10:08

And has referred to the kimono as far back as 2014!

You'd think he have been able to buy his own by now.

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koshkat · 27/12/2019 10:13

Dapplegrey · 27/12/2019 10:14

However my girls quality of life is vastly better when they have a large area to scratch about in.

Our chickens have a large area to scratch about in but it’s well protected with a high wire Electric fence.
There are plenty of foxes around us unfortunately (one got our pet Turkey who flew out of the secure enclosure in a panic straight into the fox’s jaws) but so far our hens have survived.

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 27/12/2019 10:16

He was the one who tweeted twice about wearing his wife's kimono whilst killing a fox.

Yes. And who then made their own assumptions about what this clearly meant and posted them?

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 27/12/2019 10:19

I remember the legal furore over joke comments made about Gina Ford on MN. I wouldn't be in a hurry to post made up stuff about a QC.

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