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Was I at all in the wrong here

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newlifenewme2020 · 23/12/2019 05:37

Oh god this is so long but I just want to check in all of this if I did anything wrong

DH has had a issue with his temper for a while. I had hoped he was dealing with it until today.
Woke up this morning and DH got up with DS who is 6. Came down to see DH yelling at DS. DS had apparently send a pile of clothes DH had sorted out flying. I ask DH to calm down. DH storms upstairs with the pile of clothes and then gets to the top and throws them down.

I ask him to move them as his parents are due to take DS out and he doesn’t answer me just huffs and goes in the bedroom. At that point I am in tears (this has happened many times before but not for a while and I had hoped it was getting better- stupid me)

The doorbell goes and I am just finishing off making sure Ds has everything. DH walks in and shove DS to the door and yells at his parents “take him for gods sake he is doing my head in” I come up behind him and say “ no it’s you and your temper that are the problem and I am sick of it” (his parents think he can do not wrong but I tired of covering it up)
DH shuts the door goes mad at me and storms upstairs flinging a picture off the wall down the stairs and kicks the wall
After about half an hour I go up and ask him to get up and help me and he says “no” I say please we have so much to do before Christmas and he says “better get on with it then”
At this point I feel broken come downstairs and ring the Samaritans as I just need someone to talk too.

Afterwards I go back up and try to talk to him but he says I am always hen pecking him and I am a huge part of his stress. Again I ask him to help me. He storms out

After about an hour I am not sure when DS is due back so I ring his mum and ask but break down on the phone. MIL said they will be back soon.
By the time they get here DH is back and back in bed upstairs. I say to MiL please talk to him he say I have got to tell everyone he is ill over Christmas, I have so much to do I need his help.

After 20 minutes MIL comes down looks at DS and says “go up and give your dad a cuddle later he needs it”. She then says bye to me sarcastically and her and FIL walks out. FIL said hardly to me the whole time he was here.

After half an hour I go upstairs and again ask for his help. I get told no. When I ask what MIL said he says “unlike you she just asked if I was ok”
I take a deep breath and say please it is Christmas can we just get through it for DS. After 10 minutes of trying to persuade him he comes down.

He goes into the kitchen while I am in the living room and shouts “where is my wedding ring? I said I don’t know. He said he had thrown it down the stairs. I said no I have not seen it but have been tiding up all over. He then says oh it is lost then.

Now I shouldn’t have not done this but I said “oh you don’t sound upset”
There is a huge crash of breaking glass and I just freeze and so does DS. After about 10 seconds I call out “what’s happened”
He comes storming in and again I say “what has happened”
He says “back door window broken”
I walk in the kitchen see one pain of the back door window smashed (luckily double so one paine is still intact)

At this point I grab the phone and ring MiL, DH is trying to stop me but I get through and just say
“He has smashed the back door window, he needs help, he needs help with his temper, I can’t cope with this any more”
DH grabs the phone of me and says “I am coming round mum” he then storms out.

At this point I ring my mum who comes round and she helped me with stuff and we talked things through. She says if I leave I have there full support but if I stay there has got to be a chance for DSs sake and he needs help.

After a few hours she goes and DH comes back and goes straight upstairs. I go up and asked what in-laws had said.

DH says they just want me to be ok and why did you not ask how the window had smashed as it was an accident!!!! I ask how the heck a window ended up smashed by accident but he won’t tell me.

He then said “if I cared I would have called our straight away to see if he was ok”.

As I said earlier in the thread I just froze when it happened and I heard the glass

He then goes on to say again I hen peck him and cause his stress. I get at him and speak to him like a child and I keep pushing until he loses his temper and when he loses it I just keep getting at him.

He then said he wants to drive to the airport and jump on a plane. When I say to him “in that case do you know where your passport is and by the way there is sun cream in the cabinet” he leaps up, packs a bag and says “this was a prime example of me getting at him and hen pecking when he is in a mood”. He then said again the window was an accident and I always think the worse.

I expect I was meant to beg him not to go

And that I were we have left it. I have ended up in bed and him on the sofa. The packed bag ended up just being packed and not going anywhere.

It’s been playing on my mind all night. I think I know what I have to do but I just want to ask for my peace of mind- did I cause any of that?

I though I might get a text for MIL to ask if I am ok but no- nothing.

Just feel numb. Christmas is ruined. I turned to in-laws for help and it has just made things worse

OP posts:
LonelyGir1 · 23/12/2019 10:52

Let him go. Alternatively, make sure you plan a secret and safe way of leaving. This will only get worse.

You are strong enough to do this.

GabriellaMontez · 23/12/2019 10:57

What a way to live for you and ds. Get out. Plan the best way to leave.

I got locked out a while ago and tried to break a window pane to get in. We were smashing it with a tool. Couldn't do it. It's really hard to break a window!

Christmaspug · 23/12/2019 11:15

Your poor son ,you need to leave this bully before you both get hurt ,he is out of control

Christmaspug · 23/12/2019 11:19

27 years with my dh ,not for a second would of put up with a fraction of that behaviour from your dh ..
You absolutely need to pack a bag and leave ,there will never be aright time ,so pack and go ,your son will thank you in the long run

Cacklingmags · 23/12/2019 11:21

Send him back to his mummy and daddy. Let him shout at them and break their windows. He is an abusive shit.

LoisLanyard · 23/12/2019 11:21

I admit i havent read all of the other replies, but just to give my 2 pennies worth - could he have depression? Before my partner was diagnosed, he was like this - it was awful. The diagnosis and him seeking help changed a lot of things.

peardrops1 · 23/12/2019 11:24

I think your PILs' behaviour is very telling... This does not seem to me to be a case of a decent, respectful partner struggling with his mental health; it is clear where he has learned his entitled, abusive attitude towards you, and these kinds of attitudes tend to be so deeply ingrained that in practice he is very unlikely to change. The only way he might change is with a genuine recognition of his own bad behaviour, and the deep desire and humility within himself to change. Doesn't sound like that's on the cards, does it? And what hope is there, with such toxic, enabling parents? OP, as far as I can see, there only seems one sensible thing for you to do: get out.

BanginChoons · 23/12/2019 11:28

OP I left a relationship like this a few years ago. It is 100% the best decision I have ever made for my kids and myself. I was also the main earner and it was hard leaving the home I had built up but you know what? Stuff is replaceable.
You sound like a determined, strong, determined person, and he is slowly draining the life out of you. The freedom you will feel when you get away from this man will be immense. Don't underestimate the harm that staying in this environment is doing to your son. You both deserve to be able to feel safe and relaxed and calm in your home. You can do it. Please leave, you won't regret it.

NorthernLightsInWinter · 23/12/2019 11:30

Good grief. And you're already telling yourself to give your head a wobble and you need to do more to fix this?!?! WTF?!

If you won't leave for you, leave for your poor child. You are with an abusive, selfish gaslighting arsehole whose parents support this shit at your expense. Gleefully.

Get yourself and your child out of there. His childhood will be ruined and he will resent you for staying in a violent home if you don't ... and it is violent: kicking walls, breaking windows, throwing things down the stairs while blaming you for everything? He is violent and angry ... your son deserves to grow up without that.

SophieSong · 23/12/2019 11:32

I’ve read all of your posts OP and unless I missed it I can’t see a single one where you express any thoughts or concerns about how this is affecting your son. Isn’t his well-being your highest priority in all this?

Towrl · 23/12/2019 11:45

You are in a better position than most people in that you have somewhere to go. Go to your mum, don't overthink it. Pack a bag and take your son and just go. We get one chance at life OP. Don't waste it. You are already battling a serious illness so don't waste whatever time you have on your husband. Think of how scared your son must be. His world must be very anxious. Take courage and go. Don't stick it out for Christmas. Every day will be Christmas for you and your son once you are out of this dark place.

sockittome123 · 23/12/2019 12:13

OP, I know you're reading this, and I know this comment will be lost in the sea of other posts sooner or later. But all of these other posts are saying the same thing - you need to leave. You know that you need to leave, and MN is here to support you (along with Women's Aid, and your parents). There will be a few victim blamers, but they are the sort of person that this whole thread is about.

How would you feel if your DS turned out to be the same type of person as your H? Because if you stay for much longer, that is where he will be headed. It is natural for young boys to look up to their father figure as a role model, and if this happens here, your DS will grow up emulating these exact behaviours, because Daddy did it, so it must be the standard. And what will become of his partner and children? The cycle continues.

You have a chance to stop this. Please take it. Let him see his father as the template of how not to treat his partner and children.

scotsllb · 23/12/2019 12:27

I'm going to be a blunt as possible so you can see how serious this is.
Instead of calling your in-laws when he kicked a picture down the stairs, kicked the wall and smashed the back door window, you should have called the police.
If your neighbours called the police or social services were assessing this they would tell you leave this abusive man.
Your excuses are showing them that you are not prioritising your son in this and accepting the effects this has on him.
If you don't report domestic abuse you become compliant in it and this is how people lose their kids.
If you are having trouble figuring it out,, look at this way. Is he worth losing your son for?
He Is a nasty individual and he has really prayed on your vulnerability.
I would personally go and seek ASAP and move into your mums and demonstrate that you are willing to do anything to protect your son from witnessing this ever again

Namenic · 23/12/2019 12:43

@Waxonwaxoff0 - I think there are ways of dealing with anger that can worsen it. I had to live with someone with violent outbursts and had no choice as I was a child.

I made clear that her and her sons’ safety were paramount. Sorry if I did not make that clear enough. If OP feels unsafe, she should leave.

Luckingfovely · 23/12/2019 13:05

Run for the fucking hills. It's really that simple. You cannot bring your son up in this level of toxicity, it's very dangerous for you both.

hennybeans · 23/12/2019 13:10

The very best Christmas you could give your DS would be to pack his presents, things you need, and go to your mum's. Imagine a Christmas where DS wakes up to open his presents and nobody is shouting, nobody is cross and stomping around, everyone is happy and laughing, relaxed.

Also, of course your husband broke that door window out of anger, not an accident. What a spoilt, childish, abusive man.

FizzyGreenWater · 23/12/2019 13:19

Go to your mum's for Christmas with DS.

Let bully boy go home to be spoilt even more by Mummy and Daddy.

If you're so hard to live with, he'll be delighted, won't he?

If your son is so awful that he is forced to shout at him all the time, he'll be pleased to have a rest, won't he?

Just tell him - if we're so shit, and the problem is all us because you're perfect, not abusive and bullying at all, just soooo put upon, then you'll be so relieved not to have us around this Christmas.

Make plans in the New Year.

HanginWithMyGnomies · 23/12/2019 13:30

@Sofast shit! Wish I’d seen your advice BEFORE I got my head smashed in. Jeez, if only I’d not made such a fuss.

You really can’t believe what you’re saying? That’s beyond patronising and minimising abuse.

HanginWithMyGnomies · 23/12/2019 13:32

@scotsllb has it spot on too. If YOU don’t do something to protect your son @newlifenewme2020 someone else will. As harsh as this may sound. They’d be perfectly right to do that too, for his sake. He deserves to be safe and happy. The impact of domestic violence and abuse on a child is well documented and is taken seriously.

TooManyPaws · 23/12/2019 13:38

I spent my childhood and a large part of my adulthood walking on eggshells trying not to set my father's temper off. There was a huge blow up on Hogmanay 1999 just over the way I was pulling my cross-stitch thread through the fabric because I had angry thoughts to myself. I have mental health issues and the psychiatrist firmly puts them down as a result of childhood emotional abuse and trauma. Is this what you want for your son?

You've got to get out. If he wants to save the marriage he can get help with his mental health and anger issues but it has to be done before/if you ever let him back in. He is abusive. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT.

Lunafortheloveogod · 23/12/2019 13:45

Kick his horrible abusive bratty arse out. He is not nice, he is not a great anything, he is not what he wants you to see him as when he’s “winning” he’s what he shows you when he’s not getting his way.

In all my years of life a glass window pane has never just shit itself and shattered.. and I’ve fell into doors n been a clumsy arse for years. In exterior doors they have to be tougher or burglars would just tap the glass. His mothers pathetic too, surely she’d have seen the mess when she picked up ds and knows windows don’t accidentally break easily at all.. and that a grown arse man should know better than to punch (or how ever he claims he broke it) a glass window.

You’ll do a lot better physically, emotionally and mentally without him. It’s not your fault and don’t ever let your child think it’s theirs.

Catsandchardonnay · 23/12/2019 15:41

Get out OP. Do you really want to bring your son up to think this is the way to treat women? It’s abuse. You don’t “make” him do anything, the way he behaves is down to him and him alone. He’s blaming you and gaslighting you and emotionally abusing you. You’re scared of him aren’t you? And so is DS. Please get out now.

DingDongSchadenfreudeOnHigh · 25/12/2019 12:40

Many, many years ago a neighbour of mine had a brutally abusive husband - he knocked her from pillar to post. She had a beautiful little DD - he berated her because ehe wanted a son.

One night he came in in the early hours of the morning `9he'd been clubbing), and she wasn't quick enough to get him something to eat.

So he punched her in the head.

Or at least he tried to - she ducked. He put his fist through the glass window on the top of the kitchen door and slit his arm open from writs to elbow.

Do you know what she did?

She called an ambulance.

Stupid bitch. I would have let the drunken bastard bleed to death.

Don't be her. Get out now.

Rachelfromfriends1 · 25/12/2019 12:52

It’s so hard because in between all this he is great. We laugh and get on so well. In so many ways he is fantastic (ok I know you won’t believe me).

I believe you, but you need to understand that’s not the real him! It’s the fake him. It’s a facade. The real him is the abusive cunt.

You need to leave for the sake of your son.

MNersAreBatshit · 25/12/2019 13:13

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