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To think that there are too many personal insults and attacks on Tory voters

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Soimblue · 22/12/2019 14:20

I’m really sick of it now. I don’t log on here to be called a cunt, told I hate disabled people and want to ruin the NHS.

I’m interested as to whether others feel the same or if it is just me. If it’s just me, I think I’ll piss off.

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AutumnRose1 · 23/12/2019 13:37

Gail is not going to answer about my non white, disabled father. Too hard? 😂

longwayoff · 23/12/2019 13:38

The personal attacks can be a bit much but are often prompted by goady sneering from the other side. So it probably levels out. Relax. You've got at least 5 years to enjoy as much BJ as you can stomach.

Smileyaxolotl1 · 23/12/2019 13:49

drabarni is still refusing to answer the perfectly legitimate question of what the tories have done/ plan to do which can be described as ethnic cleansing so I can assume she is talking hyperbolic rubbish.

Smileyaxolotl1 · 23/12/2019 13:51

longwayoff but that’s just not true. For example on this very thread there has been one sneering Tory post and hundreds of nasty labour ones.

LexMitior · 23/12/2019 14:03

I think there are a few Tory voters here deluding themselves. The Tory Party has shifted away from being a One Nation party will immaculate manners some time ago. Most of those people left or lost their seats at the last election. The PM thinks about certain people as having watermelon smiles. If you are voting for good old middle England via the Tory party then I think you will be very surprised within the next few months!

Drabarni · 23/12/2019 14:13

www.runnymedetrust.org/blog/gypsy-and-travellers-worst-changes-for-a-decade

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-boris-johnson-trespass-law-gypsies-travellers-fox-hunting-manifesto-a9227511.html

[[https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2019/11/25/hidden-in-the-tory-manifesto-is-a-vile-and-racist-attack-they-hope-you-wont-notice/

foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/12/gypsies-travellers-boris-roma-crackdown-conservative-tory/

www.redpepper.org.uk/election-2019-the-latest-attack-on-travelling-communities/

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/tories-accused-of-fanning-flames-of-racism-against-gypsytravellers-ahead-of-uk-election/
gal-dem.com/i-barely-find-enough-work-to-feed-my-kids-the-tory-manifesto-is-an-attack-on-gypsy-roma-and-traveller-communities/

The new powers being given to the Police to seize homes is not what The Police Commission want or need, they believe the law is suitable as it is. They believe their powers are suitable already.

There are hundreds of reports about this, these are just a few, but like anything else people don't really care unless it hurts them.

underneaththeash · 23/12/2019 14:14

OP - Just laugh. The average IQ is actually quite low.

I don't know anyone stupid enough to vote labour.

Smileyaxolotl1 · 23/12/2019 14:16

drabarni
There is nothing in any of those articles that suggests ethnic cleansing at all.
It is not racist to expect people to follow the rules of the country they choose to live in.

malificent7 · 23/12/2019 14:20

There is clearly a lot of hatred and mud slinging on both sides and according to mn posters each side is "thick." Makes me ashamed to be British..

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longwayoff · 23/12/2019 14:24

@underneaththeash. Have a google so that you understand what 'average' means. Who knows? You may gain a few points.

Olliephaunt4eyes · 23/12/2019 14:25

@Smileyaxolotl1 - completely not racist to pass laws aiming at criminalising a specific ethnic group simply for living in the way they've lived for hundreds of years and then seize their property, rip apart their families and destroy their life for any infraction of these laws? And that won't in any way create fear or terror?

Jesus, I'd hate to see what you have to do to be considered racist by you!

Alsohuman · 23/12/2019 14:26

Those swinging hippies have turned into racist bigots

None of the ones I know, ie all my friends, have. You lose credibility more with every post. I’m beginning to see what Tories are upset about. You’re an idiot. And have actually achieved the impossible - you’ve united the right and the left!

Drabarni · 23/12/2019 14:26

Smiley

Social engineering, changing laws to the detriment of a race, persecution and making people homeless and eradicating their culture is ethnic cleansing.
You don't need guns, forcibly removing an ethnic minority is too far, don't you see.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the present law, that's working fine.

AutumnRose1 · 23/12/2019 14:27

Drabarni what’s confused me here is the issue of private land when the owner is fine with travellers staying on it.

So now that landowner will have to get council permission? Sorry if I’m being thick.

Drabarni · 23/12/2019 14:27

Some white British people murder, let's make them all go to jail. Change the law so we can seize their homes.

AutumnRose1 · 23/12/2019 14:28

Alsohuman more in common?

MidnightCircus · 23/12/2019 14:31

That's confused me as well Autumn. Surely private land that is given permission to use is fine?

Drabarni · 23/12/2019 14:33

AutumnRose

I don't know, I'm so worried for my extended family, they are just so scared.
I'm fine I have a home (Bricks and mortar) to come back to when I travel,
but some of my family will lose their homes, jobs, children.
For what?
It absolutely beggars belief, unfortunately, not everyone cares and it's a case of not understanding too.
I'm guilty of not knowing half of the laws pushed through the back door, so don't feel badly about those unaware.
I just wish when they are made aware they would at least be empathetic.
You have been so supportive on my many threads.
Thank you Thanks

MidnightCircus · 23/12/2019 14:33

Granted* not given.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 23/12/2019 14:35

I really don't understand why some people seem to think that people in the 60’s were all peace and love and NOT racist

There have always been racist people and i have a horrible feeling there always will be

MissConductUS · 23/12/2019 14:41

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-boris-johnson-trespass-law-gypsies-travellers-fox-hunting-manifesto-a9227511.html

Changes to the law on trespass, which is currently a civil offence, were signalled in the party’s general election manifesto, which pledged: “We will tackle unauthorised traveller camps.”

The document outlines plans to give police new powers to arrest and seize “the property and vehicles of trespassers who set up unauthorised encampments, in order to protect our communities”.

Trespass has always been a criminal offense in the US. If someone parks their camper on my front garden, I don't have to sue them to get them to leave. I can call the police and have them charged with criminal trespass.

If you don't want to put your vehicle at risk, get permission from the land owner before you occupy her land. Or from the village before you take over a school yard or sports pitch. Your right to wave your hand about stops at the next persons face.

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