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To agree with JK Rowling?

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StraightenUpAndFryRight · 20/12/2019 09:22

mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

‘Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill’

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PurpleHoodie · 20/12/2019 11:53

Wow!!!!!!

I have just briefly googled JKR Twitter (on computer) and EVERY single first response for about 50 Tweets is anti-women/anti-JKR/anti-truth etc

This is TOTALLY different from when I looked at it earlier. There are some really fucked up girl/women hating men working at Twitter.

LemonGingerCakes · 20/12/2019 11:53

@Love51

I’ve just shared this on another thread. Look what people face who ask questions:

terfisaslur.com/

dottiedodah · 20/12/2019 11:55

I think she is right .

astralweaks · 20/12/2019 11:56

JK is well able to mind-swerve the Twitter rabble.

Siameasy · 20/12/2019 11:56

Agree with her.

PurpleHoodie · 20/12/2019 11:57

Notable exceptions are J Bindel and J McAlpine.

There must be something in the J names Flowers

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 20/12/2019 11:57

She's got 147k likes and 28.7k retweets compared to 27.6k comments - and many of those comments are supportive. The Wokerati have utterly failed to ratio her, and I suspect that in itself is feeding into the savagery against her (as well as the usual misogyny)...they've come against one of the few Teflon-coated women who can legitimately raise a bored eyebrow at them and turn away.

astralweaks · 20/12/2019 11:57

I hope it makes them feel really good about themselves because the sane majority see them for what they are: pitiful.

BlaueLagune · 20/12/2019 11:58

I think the reporting of the case has been oversimplified.

In essence, the tribunal said that because the transperson concerned had a Gender Recognition Certificate, it was wrong of Maya to claim that she wasn't a she. The legal position was that she was a she.

I don't know if they would have decided differently if someone had just decided they wanted to be known as a woman. For me, there is a difference. I think if someone goes through a process, they mean it (though I still don't want biological men doing womens sport). But if you just decide you're a woman, you're not, you're a bloke in a dress and there's nothing wrong with that and you don't need to say you're a woman, just say you prefer traditionally womanly things.

cokehoke · 20/12/2019 11:58

When will this bad dream end?

Breathlessness · 20/12/2019 11:58

She will be torn to pieces.

Baguetteaboutit · 20/12/2019 11:59

It's amazing the sheer number of people, even when you consider Twitter's shenanigans to game the debate, who are prepared to like jks tweet in the face of such violence Lemon. And Joanne is nothing short of being as hard as nails.

Whatthefoxgoingon · 20/12/2019 12:03

100% agree with JK and Maya.
I am a business owner and publicly support the irrefutable fact that you can’t change sex.

You can dress to suit whatever gender you like. Crack on.

Igmum · 20/12/2019 12:04

Well done JKR. And yes Baguette it's true, I wish I had the courage to like that tweet in my own name on Twitter, but I really don't! It's sensible, balanced, tolerant - yet she is getting so much bile following it. And well done Maya, I think I need a spade - I hope there will be an appeal and that that will be different

PurpleHoodie · 20/12/2019 12:04

Single mothers who become billionaires (and multi-millionaires) like Joanne won't be torn to pieces; they can repost that Social Media meme that says:

"Behold the field of the fucks I give: it is barren"

And good on them Flowers

JesusMaryAndJosepheen · 20/12/2019 12:05

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ImGoingToBangYourHeadsTogether · 20/12/2019 12:06

Totally agree. Biology is real. World's gone mad.

Campervan69 · 20/12/2019 12:07

Ricky Gervais also agrees as do I

To agree with JK Rowling?
charlestonchaplin · 20/12/2019 12:07

thatdamnwoman
Mauvaisereputation, you misunderstand. Could this be why you have a bad reputation?

You’re too kind. I think Mauvaisreputation came onto the thread with the aim of spreading blatant untruths to smear Maya. I originally thought it was a case of lazily getting information second or third-hand but as each of her main points were refuted, no apology was forthcoming, just more untruths. (I just used ‘her’ to keep things simple. The poster may be male.)

leeloo1 · 20/12/2019 12:08

"I hate to see the hate she's getting, but she can take it - if women with her wealth and privilege don't speak up for us, who will?"

I heard Posie Parker saying something similar in a video clip linked to on another thread on the subject and I find it quite unsettling.

We have no idea of what jkr "can take" and I would assume her being brave enough to state her (very reasonable) position on this matter may well have repercussions for her own and her family's mental and physical wellbeing.

I would 'hope' that jkr is able to 'take' reading the thousands of vitriolic messages about her and yes, we can acknowledge that she is fortuitous to be able to weather any financial repercussions that may ensue, but she is still a normal woman at the heart of it all and shouldn't be treated as a sacrificial lamb on our behalves.

astralweaks · 20/12/2019 12:08

JK, torn to pieces? Absolutely no way. She has true courage and considerable steeliness.

beautifulstranger101 · 20/12/2019 12:09

I agree with her.

astralweaks · 20/12/2019 12:09

Biology is the only real.

bibliomania · 20/12/2019 12:10

Hang on, mauvaise posted a link to the actual judgement. That's not spreading misinformation.

HandsOffMyRights · 20/12/2019 12:12

Agree.

To agree with JK Rowling?