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To think that it's still not cool to be Tory?

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Beadyohfeedme · 14/12/2019 12:26

Not goady.
I'm over the election and prepared to carry on with my own form of protest against Boris but...
Conservatives still have a massive image problem to overcome. I looked up #tory on Instagram. Did I see masses of beautiful young instagramers proclaiming love for Boris or delighting at the election results? No.
Are there young celebrities who are openly endorsing the government and Conservatives? No.
Is Stormzy making an appearance with Boris at Glastonbury? No.

From the Lord Ashcroft poll;
Labour won more than half the vote among those turning out aged 18-24 (57%) and 25-34 (55%), with the Conservatives second in both groups. The Conservatives were ahead among those aged 45-54 (with 43%), 55-64 (with 49%) and 65+ (with 62%).

My verdict; this victory is a flash in pan success and a vote for Brexit not Boris.
In five years when a lot of tories have died it'll be a very different story.

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thefluffysideofgrey · 14/12/2019 12:27

I disagree.

This country has shifted to the right and is going to stay there for some time.

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SnorkMaiden81 · 14/12/2019 12:31

That's nice dear.

Maybe Tories are less bothered about virtue signalling on insta and more bothered about actually getting things done.

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Beadyohfeedme · 14/12/2019 12:34

@thefluffysideofgrey do you personally know any under 25's who voted Tory?

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Beadyohfeedme · 14/12/2019 12:35

@SnorkMaiden81 they should be bothered about the future generations who loathe them and everything they stand for.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 14/12/2019 12:36

Not many ordinary people will willingly admit to voting Tory, let alone proclaim it proudly on social media, because of the endless vilification from people who like to label them all greedy, selfish, racist, bigoted, uncaring, etc. And very likely thick and/or in their dotage too.

The same is very obviously not true of Labour voters, who are anxious to proclaim how very un- all those things they are.
Hence the discrepancy. You only have to trawl mumsnet for a while to see that.

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Confusedbeetle · 14/12/2019 12:36

Yes goady

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MarySidney · 14/12/2019 12:38

Does any grown adult make decisions based on whether something is considered 'cool'?

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Buster72 · 14/12/2019 12:39

Young people like to proclaim their wokeness.
The rest just get on with the job.

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BadLad · 14/12/2019 12:39

One reason is that left wingers are much less tolerant of people who have a different opinion than right wingers, so the latter are more likely to keep their opinions to themselves.

Also, people are more likely to be conservative (small c) as they age.

When you're 18 and your parents are early 40s, then inheritance tax is probably not top of your priorities. Get to 55, with parents around 80, and the idea of Labour nicking most of it becomes a real prospect.

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fivesecondrule · 14/12/2019 12:40

Lol most normal people vote because of reasons other than 'coolness' or the endorsement of masses of beautiful young instagrammers.

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HotCrossPun1 · 14/12/2019 12:42

Ah yes, those days when Tony had pop stars round for tea. Cringe.

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LionelRitchieStoleMyNotebook · 14/12/2019 12:43

I don't vote based on celebrity endorsements, nor do most adults. What we need is s labour seeing to the centre, but if we're talking PR and image damage, two words - Jeremy Corbyn. People who've never voted Tory in their lives have this time and they weren't voting for Boris, they were voting for anything other than Corbyn (a vote for any left party ran the risk of a Corbyn led coalition) , that's as bad as reputational damage gets. You might get celebrities endorsing him but how relatable are they to the general voting working class public who don't have millions in the bank? They're no different to the Tory monied elite, just loudly preachier

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Pieceofpurplesky · 14/12/2019 12:44

I voted labour and am definitely not cool. Time to put the analysis and nastiness to bed. I will keep up my fight for what I believe in but we live in a democracy and this is what the majority voted for. Whatever happens going forward we need to ALL hope that things get better for everyone.
It's Christmas - let's enjoy it.

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LionelRitchieStoleMyNotebook · 14/12/2019 12:44

*labour swing

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PettyContractor · 14/12/2019 12:45

To think that it's still not cool to be Tory?

I agree it's not, and it probably never will be

Nobody is ever going to stand up and shout, look at me, aren't I marvellous, I voted to have a better-run economy.

Luckily people still vote for what's sensible even if doesn't earn them much in terms of self (or public) esteem.

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shartsi · 14/12/2019 12:45

The youngest MP is a Tory. She is 24

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rosie1959 · 14/12/2019 12:46

Perhaps because the older generation have lived and worked through Labour governments and know it's not all roses and unicorns

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Beadyohfeedme · 14/12/2019 12:47

It's nice that the younger generations are being essentially written of as unimportant. Yes I do think coolness matters.
If there's something you believe in which you are embarrassed to tell the rest of the world about, surely that should tell you something.

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dirtyrottenscoundrel · 14/12/2019 12:47

I didn’t vote labour because Stormzy told me I should no.

I guess that makes me an unattractive loser.

I’ll survive.

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Rosehip10 · 14/12/2019 12:47

Did Stormzy coming out for Corbyn help them one bit? No.

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Dongdingdong · 14/12/2019 12:48

Are there young celebrities who are openly endorsing the government and Conservatives? No.

If anything the Tories’ lack of endorsement from vacuous celebrities and reality TV “stars” would make me more likely to vote Conservative.

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icannotremember · 14/12/2019 12:48

People are going to have to realise that the Tories have a massive parliamentary majority but that most people voted for parties other than the Tories. The country is not suddenly majority Tory just because parliament is. The Tories won the election emphatically, because of the system we vote under. It's a system which has previously benefitted Labour so don't think I'm arguing against the result or anything- we do need electoral reform but we knew going into this election that it was FPTP and a parliamentary landslide is perfect possible even getting fewer than half the votes cast. My point is, most people in the country are not Tories, Tory voters or Tory supporters. Idk whether it's cool or not cool to be Tory and I don't really care- for the moment it's enough for me to know they are not a majority in the country as a whole.

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TSSDNCOP · 14/12/2019 12:48

Yes goady fucker OP, I’m plenty cool. These are bad times. They don’t need celebs they need serious people to make serious decisions. Fucking Stormzy. Jesus wept. And yes, I personally know plenty of under 30 and under 20 voters that ticked Conservative.

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DeeZastris · 14/12/2019 12:49

Coolness is ultimately a very shallow aspiration.
I stopped giving a toss whether something was cool or not in my early twenties.

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Election2019 · 14/12/2019 12:50

I can’t think of a time it’s ever been considered to be cool to be Tory. For whatever reason immature students and those still struggling to leave those days behind seem to think Momentum is cool. 🤷🏻‍♀️

As a country I am certain we will be Tory now until at least another decade. It’s not to do with being cool but what the majority of the country vote for because they want.

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