To think all conservative voters aren't thinking of others?

[TheGoogleMum]

I realise this doesn't convert anyone and at this point I'm not trying to. But I just don't think anyone who really cares for the welfare of others votes conservative. We know.chikd poverty is highest for 60 years, people are actually dying due to underfunding services (I can link to the research on this if needed). So conservative voters have prioritised brexit and their dislike for Jeremy Corbyn over actually helping others. Whatever way you look at it it wasn't the kind option. Realise I will get flamed for this but it's just how i feel. It's the cruel party and I'm ashamed to be British right now with how everyone voted. Also they had such a dodgy deceitful campaign and as it was rewarded I guess that's the future of politics now :/
I'm not sad labour didn't win, they were never going to. I'm sad at how much conservatives won by as the selfish option that's basically saying it's fine for everything to continue being awful for those struggling.

in the interests of disclosure I cannot cross stitch to save my life, but as I am an evil tory voter I shall find a small child by the food bank and pay them a fruit shoot to stitch it for me.

@ooooohbetty

I do hope you never find yourself in hard times. Thinking it's hysterical that people have to use Foodbank and are dying under the present government we have. The one we have had for 9 years. Why don't u come round by ours by the Foodbank and have a good old laugh or walk round town to spot the homeless you will find one on every doorstep go and have a laugh in their face about your voting I dare ya. What you find so fucking funny I find devastating. That's why it came down to a moral choice. This is not fun. This is not like a football match some friendly rivalry.

Cheesemumma you’ve had two posts deleted so you obviously have been abusive.

Just to clarify that both of the deleted posts were aimed squarely at me but I didn’t ask for them to be removed. @cheesemumma can call me whatever she likes for not voting the way that she believes I and millions of others should have done. Sounds reasonable to me.

@Wereeaglesdare I have been through very hard times thanks. Never mentioned finding food banks funny. They're not. I found you funny.

Are you allowed to remove your own posts? Just wondering.

I think her posts have been deleted by HQ. Why else would they have a link to 'here's Our Guidelines'?

Alas, yet another fib from Cheese who is getting a little carried away.

P.s. I love Jeremy Corbyn, I so would.

You would what?

'labour supporters are stupid, common and use swear words'

Oh I definitely don't think people are suggesting Corbynistas are common working class types, let alone insulting them for it.

In response to your question OP, some of us had the fears of our Jewish friends and family members in mind when we voted.

These aren't my beliefs at all, but we have to understand that people think differently

Wise words. The U.K. needs more people with this attitude.

Plenty of Tory voters are sneery towards anyone who votes Labour as well- the usual accusations about not understanding economics

True.

Can any Corbynista write anything without using the word "cunt"?

Demonstrably, most can. For example the Labour Manifesto. Not a profanity in sight.

This vote came down to morality. The media biased still strong in these comments. No facts to back up how corbyn is racist. No facts to back up anything just headlines sold to idiots by the sun. Regurgitated bull shit that was YOUR responsibility to investigate. To question. Brainwashed by the news and headlines of course protecting Big business

1. I know Ruth Smeeth (parliamentary chair of the Jewish Labour Movement). She has so much evidence of anti-Semitic behaviour by Corbyn.

1. If all Conservative voters read the sun, it’d be making a fortune! Silly assumption.

1. Most newspapers have an inherent bias. Except, presumably, the one that agrees with you?

1. Most importantly, ^if you think that everyone who disagrees with you is both ignorant and immoral, is it possible that you’re the one who’s been brainwashed?^

Still trying to blame the media in the 21st century with the likes of the Canary and Skwarkbox is utterly ironic.

The print media is dying in its physical form, all media, blogs, forums have a bias.

Trying to pull a morality stance on this vote shows how out of touch some people really are, and how they personally treat politics as tribal. It doesn't display any higher intelligence or critical thinking, it just shows they are so far in their own personal echo chamber that they cannot even comprehend a different view point.

When Corbyn came to power it was ridiculed that it was cult like populism, much akin to Trump. I think some of the posters on this thread have aptly proved it after thursday didn't pan out.

If Labour can just blame Corby personally and keep the very left wing of the part in charge we can probably assure a Tory victory in 2024 too so here is hoping.....

Child poverty is the highest level for 60 years where did you get that from ? Bloody hell i agree

People looked at the voting paper and thought 'Anyone but Corbyn'. it's as simple as that. He has as much idea of running a country as a goldfish.

If Labour can just blame Corby personally and keep the very left wing of the part in charge we can probably assure a Tory victory in 2024 too so here is hoping.....

They are going to need a new narrative, they haven't quite worked out what yet as they are still lashing out and trying to work out how they can call decades old Labour constituents thick that isn't an own goal.

It will be for the center left to gain ground and accept that they are in fact center right economically, or momentum types thinking that they can repeat the process of calling everyone else racist, thick, 24 hours to save the nhs and need to go further left.

This situation isn't for the center right to sort out, its self reflection time but they are still stuck on the denial stage of grief, some have moved onto anger but they haven't had the whatsapp/twitter response to copy and paste yet.

To think all conservative voters aren't thinking of others?

I've answered why I've voted conservative in this election on another thread. Being a coal miners daughter who lives in the northeast and has voted labour in every election I'm bloody appalled that there are STILL far left labour supporters not taking responsibility for losing this election when it's blatantly clear.

I am an NHS employee - JC's pie in the sky 'free broadband for all, 4 day week, benefits for all immigrants as soon as they step foot in the country has massively alienated staunch labour voters like myself.

The majority of voters have woken up to the fact he is against people who have worked hard and are high tax payers.

The conservative message is yes there will be a safety net for those who find themselves in hard times (as it should be) what they are also saying is we won't bank roll for ever those who are happy to sit on their arse and not work for what they receive.

Unfortunately in this country we live in a very shallow, selfish and ‘ME, ME, ME’ society! Of course the Tories were going to win the election!

The tories do not look after the vulnerable. I worked on Pip and oh god the stories I could tell. The inefficient procedures, the fuck ups with money, vile attitudes towards benefit claimants, confusing and long systems, assessors who can't even fucking spell on a report, no one caring that mislabelled reports means money is stopped. And that's without assessors commenting that a claimant wears a short skirt or wears make up, without the ludicrous scoring system, without people being denied benefit and not having their cancer diagnosis considered because the diagnosis was made one day after the assessment. The whole system is fucking disgusting and I tried so much to help people, much more than many of my colleagues. I went above and beyond, and as much help and support I could give, I still couldn't change a cruel system. The idea that tories care about the vulnerable is frankly laughable!

Am element is turkeys voting for Xmas. A guy in work was telling me how he's paying bedroom tax, he doesn't work so his son is earning and paying the rent and how it isn't fair. How the money he receives is nothing and it's stressful and he is visiting food banks. In the next breath, without me even asking, stated he was voting tory for brexit so Britain has more money. If that isn't a turkey voting for Xmas then tell me what is.

Oh wow Madein1995 absolutely spot on!!!

Nothing I've read about the disability assessment system gives me any confidence. My father was disabled and had periodic assessments in the 70s but they were done by medical staff I think, not like now and he was always treated with respect.

vile attitudes towards benefit claimants,

It's appalling. I saw this earlier this year. I find it astounding.

urthevoice.co.uk/dwp-restore-benefits-disabled-woman-called-lying-bitch/

I only got to the second page, but had to give up after once again reading so many people trotting out the blatantly false line that Tories are better with the economy. Just taking the last ten years with below average growth, reduced productivity and wages still lower than pre 2008 illustrates this is not true.

I'm a Tory voter and I definitely DO think of other people.

I think of all those hard-working people, the ones that get out of bed when it's still dark and don't get home until it's dark again. I think of those that sit of trains or in traffic for hours every week. I think of those who miss out on time with their children, time with their partners and time with their friends. I think of those who work hard to better themselves, the climb the ladder and handle the stress and sacrifices this entails. I think of people who do all of this to provide themselves and their families with a good standard of living.

I also think about those who have fallen on hard times or struggle with health issues. I'm grateful that we live in a country with a welfare safety net, with an NHS which is free to access and free primary and secondary education for all. We live in a country with more opportunities than ever, with great social mobility and where hard work is rewarded.

The people who want the same lifestyle as the grafters without making the same sacrifices? The people who want the taxpayer to pick up the tab for their personal choices? The people who this they're entitled to anything other than a rod over their heads and a BASIC standard of living?

...I don't think about those people as much.

*roof over their heads (so many typos...sorry...bloody phone!)

If they are really that bad why oh why then did so many vote. It was the biggest win since before probably most of you were born.