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To think it’s utterly disgraceful that Corbyn hasn’t resigned

887 replies

Bearbehind · 13/12/2019 19:19

The man is the reason the Labour Party didn’t stand a chance in the GE

Yet today he doesn’t even have the good grace or integrity to step aside

Is their anyone at all who supports him in that decision?

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Andylion · 13/12/2019 20:01

In Canada we occasionally have an interim leader, appointed by the party. That gives some time for the party to get their act together, lick their wounds etc, before choosing a new leader. Is this not a possibility in the UK?

Barnseyboyo · 13/12/2019 20:02

I’ll piss myself laughing if they get McDonnell as leader. Wouldn’t put it past them. It’s what Momentum will want

peaceanddove · 13/12/2019 20:03

He is a zealot with a Messiah complex.

Jillyhilly · 13/12/2019 20:03

The likes of Cambridge Analytica and a constant smear campaign are to blame

Just because other people couldn’t or wouldn’t believe in that concept doesn’t mean he was wrong.

I think this is what’s called “being ideologically gripped”. I am seeing this all over Twitter as well and it’s kind of fascinating - the belief that it cannot be the fault of the man or the policies, so it must be something else: the electorate, or stupid working class people who don’t understand what they’re voting for, or racism, or old people, or the weather, or the media, or Cambridge Analytica. Or for that matter anything else that can be used as a distraction from the cold hard truth
which anyone who hasn’t polished off the koolaid can see: Corbyn is deeply unpopular, his past association with terrorists made him dodgy, his Brexit policy was nonsensical, and normal working people who know how to draw up a budget understand that getting a lot of stuff for free doesn’t add up.

TheBlueStocking · 13/12/2019 20:04

The difference is the treatment in the UK media and online propaganda. Boris Johnson is a far worse human being. It's simply in the interests of the very rich for you to be manipulated into thinking that making outrageous racist and sexist comments are cool beans in a PM.

Paintedmaypole · 13/12/2019 20:04

These days instant reaction is demanded. He is resigning. It takes a bit of time to sort things out properly. It would be irresponsible to just dump things and run. He is showing dignity and common sense, he isn't playing games.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 13/12/2019 20:04

I really don't understand why people are making a fuss about this. He's going! He has already said he's going. But a decision needs to be made about who is the best person to lead the Party out of this mess and I don't see how rushing that process will help.

kinsss · 13/12/2019 20:05

New times next week. Tories in power for ten to fifteen years hence is my view.

I think they will try the pay back for those Loaned Votes. But am not too sure either.

Not surprising that Labour was abandoned really. They need to get their act together right now. But hey, Corbyn is digging his heels in, lovely. Just so he can decide on the next leader I suppose.

ThisTurkeysNot4Christmas · 13/12/2019 20:05

I really can't see why it matters one jot when he resigns.

The Labour party are toast after this election.

There won't be another one for a few years and in the meantime Tories have such a big majority in the Commons, it won't matter who leads Labour.

I am appalled still at posters who think his plans were 'fair' etc.

There was the most brilliant article in The Times on Saturday which showed the true marxist nature of their plans.

ImGoingToBangYourHeadsTogether · 13/12/2019 20:05

Exactly. He was not wrong to try to make the UK a better and fairer place. Just because other people couldn't or wouldn't believe in that concept doesn't mean he was wrong. We should be aspiring to achieve what he set out to do. And I pray that in the future, we will see kindness return to UK politics.

This.

But then this is Britain. A horrible country built on an exploitative and abusive class system filled with people who've just told us yet again that they don't want to have to think, they just want someone who looks good in charge.

Anyway, back to the op - he has announced he will resign ffs. Of course he isn't going to go just like that, things need to be organised. You really are after blood aren't you. You've got what you wanted. Leave it be.

noblegiraffe · 13/12/2019 20:05

Of course the party could have an interim leader. Harriet Harman became acting leader when Ed Miliband resigned after his election failure.

It’s how it should be done.

churchandstate · 13/12/2019 20:05

*Corbyn failed to offer them what they wanted.

That is HIS fault not theirs.*

It’s nobody’s fault. All anyone can honestly do is put their stall out and see what happens. He did that. He refused to present what people wanted to hear, which is what BJ has done.

SeaWitchly · 13/12/2019 20:05

I’m with Berryfull too.
The man has said he will resign but is staying on until a successor is appointed. So all the ghouls baying for his blood need to back off. Boris Johnson will be setting the world to rights for you all soon enough.

needsomehelptoday · 13/12/2019 20:06

But a decision needs to be made about who is the best person to lead the Party out of this mess and I don't see how rushing that process will hel

JC wants to be involved in choosing that person. For the sake of the Labour Party him and momentum shouldn't be involved in that decision at all.

Sparklybaublefest · 13/12/2019 20:06

no, he shouldnt resign and make it about him just yet, i think neil kinnock did that, its bad grace

joolzfromyork · 13/12/2019 20:06

The biggest mistake that Miliband Minor made was resigning the day after defeat.

It put immediate pressure on the party to find a new leader

Corbyn is staying while the Party reflects and holds the (inevitable) Post Mortem. After which, a campaign by interested parties for the leadership can be held.

Whilst Cooper(maybe), Long-Bailey(probably), Starmer(almost certainly), Rayner(I hope) and perhaps Jarvis(dear God ... Why?) knock lumps out of each other, Jeremy Corbyn will hold the ring as leader.

When the decision has been made, he resigns.

That's it ... all other interpretations are ... whats the phrase ... ummm

'Fake News'

HTH Smile

BelleSausage · 13/12/2019 20:07

The reason we are ‘making a fuss’ is the deep suspicion that he is trying to have a hand in electing his successor.

His way has proven to be shit. He needs to get out of the way in the same way Ed Milliband did after his (actually much less embarrassing) election drubbing. Harriet Harman acted as interim leader.

DianaT1969 · 13/12/2019 20:07

"I won't lead this party through another election"
You think??

ImGoingToBangYourHeadsTogether · 13/12/2019 20:07

And since when is Marxist not fair? Since when is anti-marxism and extreme capitalism fair? Don't make me laugh @ThisTurkeysNot4Christmas. It representative countries, the US and UK, are the most unequal on the planet.

Goldenchildsmum · 13/12/2019 20:08

He won’t go until someone he thinks is suitable is lined up
**
Precisely what I am worrying about. Another Corbyn is not going to win back all the voters in those lost Northern seats.

This. Control to the bitter end Hmm

GloGirl · 13/12/2019 20:11

All the ghouls baying for his blood.

Like we didn't just witness our centre left party get HUNG DRAWN AND QUARTERED last night because of him. Of course we're calling for blood.

He gambled, he lost. He needs to give it up and give Labour a shot of coming up with some reasonable opposition. Someone needs to rally and hold the Tories to account.

noblegiraffe · 13/12/2019 20:11

It put immediate pressure on the party to find a new leader

You don’t think they’re already looking for a new leader?

Harriet Harman could do the job again for as long as needed. It was 4 months last time, so hardly a rushed job.

ImGoingToBangYourHeadsTogether · 13/12/2019 20:12

No it hasn't been proven to be shit. That would require trying it. Britain not wanting to try the only alternative option we've recently been offered and it being not good are two entirely different things.

Ikeameatballs · 13/12/2019 20:12

I listened to David Blunkett and Ken Clarke on the radio today. David was appalled that JC had not resigned or apologised. It was a really interesting discussion between two old foes about where things went right/wrong for their respective parties.

I voted Labour but did not feel that I was voting for JC. I hoped for a Labour/Lib Dem or SNP coalition.

JC’s policies were clearly too left wing for the electorate to stomach, particularly given his complete lack of charisma and his “splinters in his arse” position on Brexit. One of those problems and he might have still been electable but not with all 3.

IMO he should resign now, there should be a caretaker leader until after Jan 31st, then the contest should start.

churchandstate · 13/12/2019 20:13

Corbyn is still the leader, and he doesn’t have to resign until he’s ready. If you don’t like it, tough tittie. I didn’t like waking up this morning to Boris Johnson’s smug face, but I had to live through it.