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Will the UK now accept the vote

559 replies

Gin96 · 13/12/2019 10:16

And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

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CharlottesPleb · 13/12/2019 13:41

I'll respect the result of the election, but will be waiting and seeing how many people start complaining about backdoor privatisation, more cuts etc. After all they voted for it.

Corbyn and Swinson have made EVERYTHING conditional upon remain. Staked absolutely everything about this countries future on it to try and compel people. Staked so much on it that places which have been Labour since 1935 have been forced to choose between Labour and Democracy.

Just remember that when you're blaming other people. Corbyn did the maths and knew the stakes, so if he cares so much and is the only person who would help the disabled, ask yourself why did he do that?

midsomermurderess · 13/12/2019 13:44

Did you miss the vote in Scotland OP, and for that matter in NI, or does 'country' mean only England to you?

FruitcakeOfHate · 13/12/2019 13:44

Nope, not accepting this shower of shit. Fuck that. Will be voting yes in the next Indy Ref.

FruitcakeOfHate · 13/12/2019 13:46

As for forgiveness and working together with people who voted for this, fuck that, too.

ladylunchalot · 13/12/2019 13:49

Nope, I refuse to accept a government that my country (Scotland) has yet again not voted for.
Independence cannot come soon enough.

YouJustDoYou · 13/12/2019 13:50

Basically - "You didn't vote for who I wanted to win so I'm going to be aggressive and nasty and swear at you or anyone who voted for the Conservatives!!"

Doesn't mean you're right though.

MangoStone · 13/12/2019 13:51

@CharlottesPleb the Labour position was not remain, it was negotiate a deal and then have a confirmatory referendum on the deal. Corbyn said he would be neutral and not campaign for either side.

BeatriceTheBeast · 13/12/2019 13:51

Oh look the poll is almost 50/50... what does that remind me of Xmas Grin?

Yetanotherwinter · 13/12/2019 13:53

@Owlypants I’d be happy for sturgeon to disappear into the wilderness. The woman who hates England and all it stands for but happy enough to have the nhs in Scotland. I’m gobsmacked at the result. I thought it would be a hung parliament. I thought a people’s vote would show that people don’t really want to leave the EU. I think it shows that people really do want to leave, even given the difference in the demographic from three years ago. Interesting times ahead.

Queenoftheashes · 13/12/2019 13:56

Lol how can you say united country when Scotland has basically just voted leave 😂

MangoStone · 13/12/2019 13:56

@YouJustDoYou Everyone has had several years to see what the Conservatives are doing.

People who don't support cuts to education, the NHS, the police, defence, prisons, welfare, social care etc etc are angry with people who have voted for more of this. More schools unable to be open for five full days a week. More food banks. Fewer doctors, nurses and midwives.

People feel strongly about public services and can't understand those who approve of these Tory policies.

Purplecatshopaholic · 13/12/2019 14:04

Scotland voted to Remain, so I hope so..

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 13/12/2019 14:09

Well, just under 46% of voters voted for parties that support Brexit.

But nonetheless, we face another year of Parliament spending most of it’s time on negotiating Brexit deals, followed by either a No Deal crash-out next December, or another 1-2 year extension.

So no, I really doubt that we’re going to get to “move on”.

Anniegetyourgun · 13/12/2019 14:09

Could some people try very hard to stop blaming an entire generation for Brexit? I am 60 and a firmly convinced Remainer. (Unlike the earlier poster who spouted the familiar shit rhetoric about borders, sovereignty etc, I really did vote Remain. And I'd fully do it again.) Thank you very much.

Corbyn staked everything on Remain? He really didn't, you know. Not even a little bit. Many Remainers were (unfairly IMO) blaming him for the result in 2016 because he had failed to come out in support of remaining other than a few, late, vague remarks, and indeed he was quoted as previously having been anti-EU. Very recently he reluctantly conceded that a second referendum might clear things up, and talked about how much better his withdrawal agreement would be than Boris's. I don't call that staking everything on remaining, I call it sitting on the fence. And I do think he would have made a fairly lousy PM. Not as lousy as Johnson mind you, but it's a low bar.

You can't say maybe the Tories will deliver a more enlightened, socially progressive society going forward, though. If they were going to do that they would already have done it. I've nothing against a Conservative government in theory, but, to borrow from the classics, these are the Wrong Sort of Conservatives.

JosephineDeBeauharnais · 13/12/2019 14:12

Is this the vote you mean OP?

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Figmentofmyimagination · 13/12/2019 14:15

I can see that we have reached the end of the road in terms of the UK remaining a member of the EU or leaving on aligned terms.

I still think it is a completely shit idea and nobody has ever been able to list any "benefits" of it.

I don't believe there will ever be "acceptance" in the terms the OP craves, not least because most young people do not want to leave the EU. They are the political future and I can't imagine why they would ever forgive the Conservative Party and their various enablers for allowing this to happen.

tinytemper66 · 13/12/2019 14:17

I voted to remain and I didnt vote for a Tory government. However despondent I feel I have to accept the result. Whatever I feel about the Tory govt and their values, millions believe in them and we have to ask why.
I couldn't vote for Corbyn as I didn't believe in his manifesto.

FreeStar · 13/12/2019 14:33

Maybe one day we will see England electing to become part of Scotland?

PhilSwagielka · 13/12/2019 14:34

I've just seen an absolutely horrifying tweet from Katie Hopkins in response to Baroness Warsi, and I wonder how many Tory voters actually feel like this. Silent majority and all that.

I'm very frightened right now.

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BeatriceTheBeast · 13/12/2019 14:35

Jesus, she is a disgusting racist. Oxygen thief.

PhilSwagielka · 13/12/2019 14:41

I know people on the right keep telling me to be scared of Corbyn, but reading shit like this makes me feel sick. Because we know it's a matter of time before Hopkins and her ilk come for Jews too.

Figmentofmyimagination · 13/12/2019 14:42

Why is this woman not arrested for publishing hate speech? It is not the only example - she told Medhi Hassan the same thing.

This is what comes from enabling racists.

TheABC · 13/12/2019 14:44

People get what they voted for. In this Johnson (what a prize!).

I accept the result and I am safeguarding myself accordingly. But I will not do so with a smile on my face. It threatens my home, job and child's education. Asking me to "unite" with the people who wish such ill on me is like asking a wife to return to her abusive husband.

BertrandRussell · 13/12/2019 14:44

I don’t know what “accept the vote” means. Of course I accept it- it’s happened! But how am I supposed to “get behind it” or “pull together for Britain”? I will- somebody just needs to tell me how.

TheBlueStocking · 13/12/2019 14:44

Unfortunately, my fellow countrymen are currently making me feel ill. So probs not.

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