Will the UK now accept the vote

[Gin96]

And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

@Pumperthepumper i don't think a lot of people really vote for what suits their local area anyway- I've heard so many people talking about 'voting for Boris' none of who live in his constituency- my DH for example voted Lib Dem because he doesn't agree with Corbyn's policies, neither does he agree with Brexit- he had no idea who his local candidate was though. And we actually have a labour MP who is really good but she lost votes based on Corbyn's personality and policies.

I think most labour voters who defected to the Tories will be delighted.

Everyone else will just have to accept it.

I voted Remain but am sick to the back teeth of it now and just want it done and dusted.

*So the majority of British people are a lot stupider than what I gave them credit for. Vast, vast majority, that map is Tory blue

Please be specific. You mean the English (and to a lesser extent, Welsh)*

But not the Scousers....

I don’t see why Scotland should accept a Johnson mandate, even if I accept that I am inflicted with one.

@FreeStar yes, you’re right. This possibly wasn’t the best election to use as an example for voting in the best interest of your local area!

It was so impossible to choose a side this time I didn't vote. I always vote normally but I voted to leave the EU and personally feel its time for a change from the Tories. There is never going to be a party that can make everyone happy. I don't understand politics at all. I'm far from clued up. But the NHS and school cut backs are a disaster. Homeless people everywhere. More and more food banks. I do wonder sometimes if a different party could improve these things. But then they all make promises and don't keep them. Where I live Tory's always win locally. Weirdly most people vote labour near us but we are surrounded by wealthy villages who vote tory.

Pumper, explain to me why you think it wasn't a landslide
thanks

Well the convention is that a landslide majority is a majority of 100+ seats so no, it wasn’t a landslide. It’s still a significant landslide but in terms of share of the popular vote it’s not much more than May got, although that means nothing under FPTP. I live in one of those northern areas that’s just turned blue and my sense is that this wasn’t a positive vote for the Conservatives, it was a negative vote against the current Labour Party, and the Get Brexit Done message also cut through very well. There will be great anger and disappointment here when it dawns that this is just the beginning when it comes to Brexit. I’m not sure how long the realisation will take, people are proud and stubborn but the Conservatives will have no one else to blame.

But not the Scousers....

Are they gunning for independence? 😄

I think we have clarity now that another referendum would not have changed things (and would have been even more hideously divisive)

People aren't going to stop talking about stopping Brexit until it's done though, and I do wish people wouldn't talk as though remainers are just 'sore losers'. A sore loser is someone who gets upset when nothing is at stake - this is not about not getting the gold medal, boo hoo. This is about the consequences of leaving when even the leavers cannot come up with one solid good outcome of it from their own research.

But I guess it is a done thing now. My only hope is that, as some people have suggested, the short timeline means the EU can push Johnson towards a softer Brexit.

*still a significant majority I mean

Shouldn’t have stayed up so late

I don't think an election creates unity. Will see how it's played going forward. The Tories used a lot of divisive rhetoric (as did Labour) so I think it will be a long time before we get to a point of unity. As one Brexiteer told me, "I hope this shuts up all those liberals now".

@Londongirl86

I live in a safe Tory seat too but my vote still mattered. Please vote next time!

I would think the election result will lead to even more division. For all of you that handed the right wing government a majority, I hope you are prepared to lose the NHS, your worker’s rights, environmental protections, food safety legislation. I hope you are happy to accept more homelessness, more education cuts, lower pay, less annual leave, more poverty, and more protection and deregulation for corporate interests.
I’m in the top 5% and would never vote Tory. I’m ashamed of the way this country has voted.

How do you get the 52/48 in favour of remain from the voting last night?

Not everyone who voted Conservative is pro Brexit.
Not everyone who voted Labour was pro remain
Not everyone who voted LibDem, Green or Other is remain
SNP, Brexit Party...you get the drift.
Some people voted for the party they were loyal to irrespective of their EU stance.

Your figures are not accurate.

Well done Scousers! And most of South Wales.. the rest of Wales is just 🤦‍♀️

Ynys Môn wtf were you thinking?
Bridgend! Where millions of EU subsidies have been spent! Choosing to rely instead on the Conservative party, the same Conservative party that destroyed Wales's industry and pushed South Wales into being one of the most deprived areas in Europe? Good thinking! 👍

Yes, I have "accepted" that I have nothing in common with the views of most people the UK.
I am thoroughly embarrassed to be British after this outcome, so I am going to emigrate (DH is from a country with a nice, moderate government).

You bet @Butchyrestingface! Come and join us

Don't forget an increase in immigration @HiandHello !""

Hope all the Brexiteers will be happy with that!

I think we have clarity now that another referendum would not have changed things (and would have been even more hideously divisive)

How so? The referendum had two options compared to the multiple options in a general election.

Unless you have the numbers of individuals voters for each party and then compared those figures by leave/remain manifestos I don’t really see how you can state with any certainty there is now clarity around brexit.

We have no choice but to accept the vote as BJ has a large majority so can push through anything he wants now. That does not mean we have to like it and I do not support this government either over Brexit or the choice of government. We will be ok as we are not on the breadline, are retired on a comfortable income and have savings/investments. Sadly there are a lot of vulnerable people out there though who rely on benefits and good public services who will struggle with such an uncompassionate administration. I fear for them and will do whatever I can personally to help.

I have voted conservative in the past but I have lost faith in them and voted labour whilst holding my nose as I don't really agree fully with Corbyn's policies but think he is more trustworthy than Johnson who is an out and out liar. I think many people voted for him though due to the political deadlock we have had over the last few years due to Brexit and the fact that Corbyn was not someone most centre or left of centre voters could identify with and the fact he was so on the fence about Brexit and of course the right wing media stirred up fear as they always do about his proposal to renationalise industries ( as if he was ever going to get that through) and impose massive tax hikes on anyone earning over £80k.

Bit of a daft question asking if the country will accept the vote though. Accepting something and liking something are two different things.

you bet @Butchyrestingface! Come and join us smile

I’m Scottish. Safer where I am. 😉

Maybe you lot can be our little colonial outpost.

I was a Conservative but under Boris Johnson I don't recognise the party. He lies all the time and for that reason I couldn't vote for him.

I accept the result but when all the lies come back to haunt us, my conscious is clear that I did not vote for this.

Everyone I spoke to this morning was just relieved that there had been a decision. No jubilation though. Resigned to the fact that the choices were extraordinarily poor.

I totally agree devastating is appropriate use of word.

Plenty of ties that bind us Butchy. And you gave us Sir Kenny 👍🏻

I’ll accept it - but I will never ever forgive.

I won’t raise a finger to help any member of my family who voted for this.

Screw them.

Screw every British/Welsh seaside resort who wanted to leave the EU - good luck without your EU subsidies. I won’t rent your cottages or support your areas. I’ll be in Scotland, Ireland and Europe.

Screw everyone who wants me to chase their Cardio appts (17 week wait in Trafford) or ring weekly to see where on the list for sheltered accommodation they. Screw them when they ring and ask why I’m not home by 7pm (because the trains are a shit show between Manchester and Liverpool). Screw them when they need help finding another GP surgery.

I won’t draft wills or powers of appt for free for my father’s long list of Brexit voting friends/acquaintances - they can get off their back sides. Screw them when they wonder why people need our local food bank. Screw them when they want me to write letters and decipher their new TVs.

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh