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Will the UK now accept the vote

559 replies

Gin96 · 13/12/2019 10:16

And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

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Dapplegrey · 14/12/2019 09:35

We're going to emigrate as soon as possible,

Flowerballs where are you emigrating to?

CherryPavlova · 14/12/2019 09:35

There is no choice but to recognise there is a Tory majority that will take us out of Europe eventually.
I can’t accept this is good for the country. I can’t accept it is democracy. I can’t accept the foundations of lies that were sold in Johnson’s ever ready straplines.
He campaigned well overall. Dominic Raab gave him five simple headlines to keep chanting. Every time he stepped out they poured out “ Let’s get Brexit done” “Forty new hospitals” etc People believed him oddly. I can’t imagine how. They can’t have considered the facts and detail but still the twaddle poured out and was accepted.

It will create a widening of the polarisation of wealth. Most people will be worse off. Public services aren’t about to improve. Sad days.

KenDodd · 14/12/2019 09:43

The opposition to democracy is the force for evil the whole country has just united against.

Democracy is a complex and imperfect thing. Can I point out that everything the Nazi party did was Democratic and legal.

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Aliceinwanderland · 14/12/2019 09:48

No. Because of the lies told by Leave campaign. Although I do accept that many in the UK, mainly English, would rather having a lying, adulterous, rambling, racist, buffoon as PM than maybe have to pay a bit more tax.

CherryPavlova · 14/12/2019 09:52

@KenDodd Exactly - 1933 is why this election and cultural change is so terrifying.

Littletabbyocelot · 14/12/2019 09:55

I accept I can't change the vote. I am allowed to be angry that a move which experts say will deliver a 2-4% drop in gdp without any benefit that I buy into (see above about how we did control our borders/laws etc) is being carried through. I'm allowed to be angry that workers rights were explicitly removed from the deal and this is all being done under a right wing party who will ensure the people who are hit by the fall in Gdp will be those who can least afford it.

I'm allowed to be fucking furious that with 11 years to go to prevent catastrophic climate change we voted in a party who will do almost fuck all about it.

I do think this needed to happen though. We are completely divided as a nation and one side needed to get their way and see how that pans out and in 5 years time maybe that's when healing can start.

mummyrocks1 · 14/12/2019 09:58

I will have to accept the vote and that we are leaving the EU even though I don't like it. I. Don't think things will ever be the same again. I don't think we will be united and I think now we will have problems with Scottish independence so won't be united in that way either.

ReanimatedSGB · 14/12/2019 10:11

I hope there is already some digging being done into the results of the election and the possibility of at least some aspects of it being fraudulent. There seem to have been some problems with people who wanted (and were entitled) to vote being somehow unable to do so. It may be possible to at least interfere with Fucko's government for a while, which would be a good thing. People have, after all, overthrown bad governments in the past.

ReanimatedSGB · 14/12/2019 10:17

Because this 'healing division, reaching unity' isn't going to work. A good half of the population still loathe and despise Fucko the Clown and his gang, just like a good half of the population still know that the referendum was hugely fraudulent. So there is going to be plenty of resistance.

BowermansNose · 14/12/2019 10:25

I always thought landslide is an unfortunate metaphor. They tend to be quite destructive.

Teateaandmoretea · 14/12/2019 10:26

Remain parties won 52% of the national vote.
Leave parties won 48% of the national vote.

This is irrelevant for two reasons. Firstly we live in a first past the post system. Secondly not everyone even voted about Brexit.

Bizarrely I feel more comfortable with the result and leaving from the general election than I did from the referendum - the situation in Scotland just serves to show how flakey referendums are. Basically you just keep running it till you get the answer you want. At least this way it is our normal political system bearing it out. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this being a touch illogical but it's how I feel for some reason.

I agree with you OP, I just hope for the sake of my country and children that the truly dreadful BJ delivers on his promises and that it all works out. We are leaving and it's time to accept that.

Teateaandmoretea · 14/12/2019 10:28

I'm allowed to be fucking furious that with 11 years to go to prevent catastrophic climate change we voted in a party who will do almost fuck all about it.

I really hope you are wrong, Brexit is largely an irrelevance if we end up with no planet Shock

randomchap · 14/12/2019 10:36

I'm accepting that we will leave the EU. However I don't see it as anything that will unite the country. The economic damage will be considerable and i suspect many leavers will regret their choice. Many remainers will blame the leavers for the damage to the country.

Cornettoninja · 14/12/2019 10:36

Well lack of freedom of movement is going to make it much harder to emigrate to our nearest land mass when the UK is flooded to the size of canaries.

Littletabbyocelot · 14/12/2019 10:45

@Teateaandmoretea friend of the earth assessed all the party manifestos for action on climate change. Maximum points 45. Green, Lib Dem and Labour all in the 30s. Conservatives got 5. Their transport policies were deemed actively harmful.

ddl1 · 14/12/2019 10:49

No, we aren't, fortunately. We aren't Putin's Russia or Erdogan's Turkey. We have a right to our views . We have a right to dissent from the government and to disagree with the majority. And if we lose that, we lose everything, Unity does not trump freedom of speech and opinion.

DeadButDelicious · 14/12/2019 10:59

I accept that the results of the election represent a continued want for Brexit and that therefore it should happen in as orderly fashion as possible without any further delays.

Doesn't mean I have to like it.

Doesn't mean I think it's a good thing.

And I certainly don't think the country is united.

But I do accept it.

dwinsiaradcymraeg · 14/12/2019 11:07

I accept that we have been royally shafted by Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings (again) and that there is nothing left to fight for me and my unwanted EU immigrant high tax-paying partner so we will take our taxes to his country and I will apply for citizenship there as soon as I qualify. If that's what you mean by move on and put it behind us, then yes. I genuinely wish you the best of luck with the bed you've made while you lie in it for the next five years.

MIdgebabe · 14/12/2019 11:16

I accept the vote in the same way as the brexiteers accepted the vote to join the EU

BertrandRussell · 14/12/2019 11:20

Yes- I find this “will you accept the vote” thing very odd. Of course I accept it! But I don’t see why accepting it also means like it and shut up about it.

DPotter · 14/12/2019 11:28

The outcome of this election is being compared with the landslide of 1987 with Thatcher. Funny thing was after that election no one I knew, worked with, socialised with, was related to, ever owned up to having voted Tory. And the constituency I worked in returned a Tory MP.

Like other pp have said I will live with the outcome, but I'm not going to accept or like it and I will hold to account those politicians who push through leaving the EU. I took great heart when Junker said the GB would be welcome back into the EU and I look forward to that day.

Soen · 14/12/2019 11:33

If you have opposed democracy you are the bad guys the people have just united against. The anti democratic people, the fascists.

Pmsl.

Sorry, an I really expected to get behind this level of thinking????

Hey guess what? I read Tommy Robinson has joined the conservative party. As well as the Brexit party founder who resigned from her post for Islamophobia. And Katie Hopkins has given Baroness Varsi racist comments on Twitter. Something about "This is OUR party now. British people first."

Oh, I can't believe I'm being called a fascist for not getting behind this. @CharlottesPleb I nail my flag to the mast. I hate fucking racist cunts and anyone who supports fucking racist cunts. Hope your hangover isn't too bad today.

Ginger1982 · 14/12/2019 11:39

"And move on with a united country"

We're not united, that's the point.

TheGoogleMum · 14/12/2019 11:39

What do you mean by accept the vote? It's happened and we can't undo it but I am willing to fight for a different outcome next time. With brexit out the way to muddy things and a new leader maybe labour will have a better chance. I mean what does not accepting it entail? Asking for a another election immediately? If so yes I accept it but I still think it's the bad outcome for most of us

Soen · 14/12/2019 11:56

Tommy Robinson joins conservative party

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/anti-islam-activist-tommy-robinson-announces-he-joined-the-tories