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Will the UK now accept the vote

559 replies

Gin96 · 13/12/2019 10:16

And move on with a united country, can we stop bickering and accept what people have voted for?

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changeofnamefornow · 13/12/2019 16:22

@cannycat20 you'll be very welcome Smile

Paintedmaypole · 13/12/2019 16:25

I was shocked at the outcome and I am in my late 60s, so it isn't just age. I think perhaps a lot of us live in bubble and select our friends without realising it.

LemonPrism · 13/12/2019 16:30

I fee more and more disillusioned with the British people and what they clearly want.

I just can't understand voting for more food banks, more cuts to benefits, more cutting up of the NHS

ginger1981 · 13/12/2019 16:31

With this confirmed and renewed spirit of nationalism, it I also accept that Scotland deserves a referendum for independence from the UK and I hope and expect that this time they'll win.
How exciting-we are on the cusp of a divided, nationalist Britain!

joecormac · 13/12/2019 18:13

Oddly, I am not at all angry with the Tories.

I’m angry with people who I love refusing to tell me one benefit of Brexit that is based on a fact. Who smugly tell me they are doing it for my children’s future but cannot give me a single fact about our shinny new future. Why can’t they just give me one thing to look forward to?

They know best as the Daily Mail has given them a life long education

FruitcakeOfHate · 13/12/2019 18:24

There's zero fucking way I will 'unite' and 'pull together' with fascism, xenophobia and persecution of the weakest in society. None at all. And from the results in Scotland, I'm not alone in this sentiment.

Notodontidae · 13/12/2019 21:28

@ MangoStone. You really believe losing BHS, British steel, Thomas Cook, 50% of UK high street stores, is all because the Conservatives relish austerity. These are Businesses & Entrepraneurs the people that vote conservative. @ joecormac. I can give you loads of facts? here's two. Fact 1, we will be able to make are own laws, passed by our country. Fact 2. we can control the amount of immigration to suit our own citizens, preventing even bigger class sizes, and the spread of concrete through development for housing.

derxa · 13/12/2019 21:29

With this confirmed and renewed spirit of nationalism, it I also accept that Scotland deserves a referendum for independence from the UK and I hope and expect that this time they'll win. No thanks

StoorieHoose · 13/12/2019 21:47

I'm in Scotland and I do believe that Scotland could be a successful thriving wee country. It would be very very tough the first couple of years but it's going to go to shit with Brexit anyway and I'd rather have a government that the people of Scotland voted for rather than being lumbered yet again with a government voted for by our nearest neighbours.

cardibach · 13/12/2019 21:51

If Corbyn had been a sensible moderate politician, Johnson would have lost and we would not be leaving the European Union
Do you really believe this, @Figmentofmyimagination? Don’t you remember the vitriol that was directed at Miliband? The media will not leave a labour leader alone. They will not allow them to come near power.
People being bemused by Wales or saying the map looks blue - wales returned a Labour majority. It looks blue on maps because a couple of huge rural constituencies went Tory.

Canyousewcushions · 13/12/2019 22:03

The conservatives got less than half of the overall vote, we're just stuck with an archaic first past the post system that gave them a majority.

And 2% 'win' of a small turn out, voting in a referendum based on a campaign on lies and fictions, and with no real plan, is NOT democracy.

Boris will have to pull some kind of miracle to make this wretched country united. Seeing as he's a smiley, two faced liar who appears to be like marmite, I can't see how he's going to manage anything that will bring people together.

I can't see myself getting any less angry over the next 5 years. I'm just going to be passionately campaigning to join the EU. And to get proportional representation so we can all have a say. And to campaign for a fair and liberal country with government policies that are fair to all.

Today is a sad sad day for the UK.

Canyousewcushions · 13/12/2019 22:06

@cardibach it was the wrong Milliband. 'Red Ed' was never going to be popular with the media as he seemed at the time to be too left wing and backed by the unions.

If it had been David instead, with his more centralist politics, we may have had a credible opposition and may well have ended up where we are today.

cardibach · 13/12/2019 22:34

@Canyousewcushions if you are going to try to suggest Ed Miliband was any kind of extremist...

KenDodd · 13/12/2019 22:46

Most people I know who voted Leave ARE disgusting racists, 'they can all fuck off home' type racists, they belong to you. I will NEVER unite with them.

coldlighthappier · 13/12/2019 22:52

It’s not my vote so why should I accept it?

Skyejuly · 13/12/2019 22:53

At 43 % I think a lot of people will moan. 43% isn't most people.

Soen · 13/12/2019 23:09

With all due respect OP, I dont think I can 'get behind' the Tories and brexit. I know what they are capable of and I don't endorse nor support it in any way. I'm sick of being told to 'get behind' something that firmly goes against my beliefs. All we here is "you lost, we won, get over it". Sure fire way to make people struggle to 'get behind' whatever it is.

StrangeLookingParasite · 13/12/2019 23:42

I voted Remain but am sick to the back teeth of it now and just want it done and dusted.

Good luck with that. Maybe in about ten years.

I can give you loads of facts? here's two. Fact 1, we will be able to make are own laws, passed by our country. Fact 2. we can control the amount of immigration to suit our own citizens, preventing even bigger class sizes, and the spread of concrete through development for housing.

FFS, this again? You always could, your government chose not to. You've believed every piece of bloody propaganda served up to you.

FreeStar · 13/12/2019 23:46

Ed shouldn't have resigned when he lost- he was just beginning to win the voters over- he gave up too soon and that's how we ended up with this mess in the Labour Party!

Canyousewcushions · 13/12/2019 23:57

@cardibach I didn't. But he was further to the left than the Blair/Brown Labour party was, and he got in with the backing of the unions. In the pre-Corbyn days this seemed like a bit of a shift. His brother seemed to be more centreist and would probably have been more popular with the press. David had certainly seemed a more popular candidate with the wider public.

In the post Corbyn era, however, Ed seems posivitively palatable to anyone looking for moderate views!!

FreeStar · 14/12/2019 00:00

Anyhow- it has little to do with policies in my opinion- it's all about personalities- at the end of the day what is Boris offering that Theresa wasn't?

Cattenberg · 14/12/2019 00:04

I accept that we now have no way of avoiding Brexit. But I’m still angry about having my EU citizenship taken away from me against my wishes. I’m sadder still for my child, who will never enjoy the opportunities I had.

I don’t forgive the Brexiters, and I’m not going to help them “take their country back”, when I strongly believe we should be taking it forwards.

Spoiltbutnothappy · 14/12/2019 00:07

Ah, the One Nation Tory Party that just have seen Scotland taking a different stand clearly and then NI? Good luck!

fligglepige · 14/12/2019 00:11

I accept that there is clearly still a big appetite for Brexit, and that it will happen and soon. I'm really sad about it, but I am glad that the uncertainty is over. I'm sad for NI and Scotland, who didn't vote for Brexit and are being forced into it anyway. I feel a bit shit about the whole thing. I wanted better for us all.

ReanimatedSGB · 14/12/2019 00:12

Nope. There is no obligation to 'accept' whatever government is in power. It's perfectly fine to keep on campaigning against a government you despise and distrust, and keep on working on ways to obstruct it. It isn't even against the law to criticize the government, draw up petitions, march, advise others on (peaceful) ways to oppose a current government.
Well, for the moment, anyway. Fucko the Clown and his crew not only stated in their manifesto that they intend to remove every possibility of anyone getting in their way, but the instant rebranding of themselves as the people's government (despite half the country having voted for anyone-but-them) suggests that they are going to try to make it dangerous to oppose or disagree with them. Which is, in itself, a little bit worrying, isn't it?