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Fed up of labour voters righteousness

232 replies

NemophilistRebel · 12/12/2019 19:31

The amount of people I’ve seen on social media say -

I’m voting labour because I don’t hate poor people / disabled people / the elderly etc

I’m just fed up of it

It’s as bad as children’s charities saying that if you don’t donate then you obviously condone child abuse.

No, it doesn’t mean I hate poor people or the disabled or the wealthy.

You don’t get this from the LIb Dems supporters, or Green Party Supporters or Tories

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Gingerkittykat · 12/12/2019 21:54

Trying to make out Tory voters are evil.

Maybe not evil but at best sheltered in their middle class bubble but more likely lacking in any empathy for their fellow human beings and lacking any social conscience.

Lumene · 12/12/2019 21:54

As a higher rate tax payer I'm voting labour because I think it's the right thing to do. Fewer people will die due to lack of public services, people will have better mental health support, better education will lead to less social inequality and a better society for all. I value those things more than I value my need to have two luxury holidays or live in a bigger house. It's fairly undeniable that greater investment in public services leads to better outcomes for the most vulnerable

So you are assuming Labour can deliver these things. I don’t believe they can or will sadly. Which is why I won’t be voting for them.

If I thought they could, and could sit comfortably with some of the major moral issues (which I can’t with the anti-semitism) then I would be voting for them.

Patroclus · 12/12/2019 21:55

Said this before, tory voters treat elections like they're buuying a new sofa, they dont seem to imagine this stuff is life and death for some.

lilgreen · 12/12/2019 21:55

DD at uni. Her first GE. She and most of her friends have all voted Labour.

Patroclus · 12/12/2019 21:55

Why would it be worse? Austerity was an ideology, not something that just happened.

NemophilistRebel · 12/12/2019 21:56

I think the labour campaigns have been mainly focused on the generation that is voting now for the first time

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Lumene · 12/12/2019 21:57

Maybe not evil but at best sheltered in their middle class bubble but more likely lacking in any empathy for their fellow human beings and lacking any social conscience.

Switch ‘social conscience’ to critical thinking and you have many people’s views on Labour supporters right there in a handy sentence.

ThatSeventiesLass · 12/12/2019 21:59

I have spent twenty years working in the community sector. I have worked with the homeless, the abused, the unemployed, the totally disenfranchised. I will NEVER understand how anyone with moral fibre can vote Tory. Their policies KILL.

Amortentia · 12/12/2019 21:59

Labour government the austerity would be so much worse.

Nonsense, and I'm not even a labour supporter.

The reform of the benefits system was completely based on a sick ideology. It costs far, far more to administer the benefits system. Never mind the knock on effect to other public services. The changes were a fuck you to poor and vulnerable people. If you support Torys you are complicit. At least have the balls to admit it, instead of trying to shift blame on a labour government that never happened.

Kungfupanda67 · 12/12/2019 22:02

@lilgreen that’s because she’s a teenager and they all say ‘that’s not fair’ a lot, just like labour!

I wish I could vote anywhere other than tories this time but they feel like the least worst option.

You can’t come into government and undo everything the previous government has done. Labour want to undo universal credit, which I know definitely needs work but the idea is sound, to make all benefits into one payment rather than 6 different payments throughout the month. They want to have another referendum - we’ve already done it! They want to get rid of the 2 child benefit limit, scrap the bedroom tax, they want to take our choice in energy supplier away, they want to spend money giving everyone broadband (why?!). They’re proposing an increase of £97BILLION in everyday, annual spending.

formerbabe · 12/12/2019 22:03

Exit polls showing a Tory majority.

kateandme · 12/12/2019 22:05

compared to waht some of the tories have been saying towards voting labour.its no different your just on the other side

TheresWaldo · 12/12/2019 22:07

I'm a bit gobsmacked anyone could be SO annoyed so much by other posters on social media that it MADE them vote in a way they would have done otherwise. I heard the same argument about Brexit. It's ridiculous. You believe in something or you don't and should vote accordingly. If you change your mind because someone you don't like agrees/disagrees or summat you are an idiot.

kateandme · 12/12/2019 22:07

and i dont think some people can be told not to be upset.some people you speak to with so much venom to tories have watched people they love die,from being poor!this is our world how can that be.an like it or not whoever is 'really' to blame under this government people have been dying or in huge amounts of pain because of them

Gonetoget · 12/12/2019 22:08

Makes a nice antidote to the Tory fb propaganda being circulated by the myopic dick heads that believe everything t’internet tells ‘em.

midnightmisssuki · 12/12/2019 22:09

you certainly won't get a tory saying things like that for sure - its usually the labour party/corbyn supporters etc.

darceybussell · 12/12/2019 22:14

I didn't vote tory this time, but I have voted tory lots of times in the past. I did it because I thought it would result in a better outcome for everyone, not because I'm selfish, or evil, or hate disabled people.

I believe in supporting businesses, especially small and medium sized businesses, because they create jobs in the community. I also believe in encouraging investment into the UK, because it creates jobs, which generates income, and taxes. I don't believe that is selfish.

I didn't vote tory this time, I feel they've now gone way too far to the right for me. But I'm not daft enough to not be able to understand why someone would!

LidlDonkey · 12/12/2019 22:17

I think you mean "fed up with".

HTH.

TheVeryHungryTortoise · 12/12/2019 22:18

It is selfish and immoral to vote Tory.

Schuyler · 12/12/2019 22:21

80% of Jewish people felt Corbyn stands for anti Semitic sentiment. I sincerely doubt there are many Jewish people who vote for labour despite what some of the JC brown noses. And no, I didn’t vote Tory. I never would.

formerbabe · 12/12/2019 22:22

I'm a floating voter. I spoiled my ballot paper today. I can't bear any of them.

However, I know several staunch labour voters who post crap constantly on social media. It's hideous and really puts me off. They seem to really resent democracy and anyone who votes differently to them. I never hear that from the other side. It's bizarre.

Tolleshunt · 12/12/2019 22:22

Ok, OP, and anyone who says they don’t hate the poor and disabled, but will vote Tory:

What effect do you think the Tory policies have had on the poor and disabled over the last 9 years? Do you think it’s been a good effwct? If so, why? If not, why are you prepared to overlook this and vote Tory anyway?

I’m curious.

NemophilistRebel · 12/12/2019 22:23

I have poor and disabled people in my family

They are no worse off

I also am not wealthy.

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NemophilistRebel · 12/12/2019 22:24

Also - I didn’t vote Tory.
I didn’t vote Lib Dem and I definitely didn’t vote labour

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NemophilistRebel · 12/12/2019 22:25

I would vote Tory though. But this thread wasn’t about voting for the tories

It was about how awful labour supporters are on social media

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