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If Labour fail to win the election do you think Corbyn should resign?

137 replies

DeRigueurMortis · 12/12/2019 01:18

He’s lost/losing 2 elections the Labour Party should have won.

The membership keep him in power.

I left the party over a number of issues and feel enraged we don’t have an opposition that’s able to challenge one of the most feeble Tory leader/party in history.

I’m still “red” and will be voting tactically for Labour, but with a heavy heart.

I believe he should resign (and have done so before now) am I unreasonable?

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CendrillonSings · 12/12/2019 01:23

No, he should stay in place forever, doing his “OAP Student Protestor” comedy routine that’s really found a cult following... Grin

FagashJackie · 12/12/2019 01:25

I agree with you. I'm not a labour supporter, I thought when he was voted in that it would give credible proper opposition, but it's been a massive missed opportunity.

Doyoumind · 12/12/2019 01:37

He should but he won't.

HeIenaDove · 12/12/2019 01:39

Thought you lot wanted people working till 75 so whats with the OAP comment.

You goalpost moving hypocrite.

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DeRigueurMortis · 12/12/2019 01:39

Yes I worried he won't and with Momentum behind him, he will keep being re-elected as leader until the party is effectively redundant as a political force Sad

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WhenISnappedAndFarted · 12/12/2019 01:40

I also agree that he should but won't

moreginrequired · 12/12/2019 01:42

I’m sure he has already stated that he would resign if he didn’t win. We will see what happens. I feel he’s been too uncompromising (as much as I understand his frustration with the media) but pissy Corbyn wins no votes...

GruffaIoChrimbo · 12/12/2019 01:43

I would have liked to have seen Tom Watson as PM yes
Nonetheless I will be voting for labour tomorrow and I do think media coverage is an issue.

CendrillonSings · 12/12/2019 01:43

wanted people working

One thing that should be obvious by now is that Corbyn isn’t working...

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DeRigueurMortis · 12/12/2019 01:43

Helena the OAP comment wasn't from me and I am unsure why you feel it's moving the goalposts.

To be frank, I think his age is an issue. Not insofar as his age per se but the political mindset of the eras within he formed/cemented his political beliefs.

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CluelessNewMama · 12/12/2019 01:47

YANBU. I’m a Corbyn supporter but agree that in that scenario he would need to move over and give someone else a chance at getting Labour back into power.

But I don’t think it will be easy for them to find someone who inspires hope in as many as Corbyn does, there is good reason why he has such strong support in the grassroots movement. Many people truly believe in what he is trying to do.

FagashJackie · 12/12/2019 01:50

I think he's been stitched up by the press too. I'm not a labour supporter. I actually am fascinated and disgusted by them all.

DippyAvocado · 12/12/2019 01:52

Yes,and the Labour Party can choose a leader who might actually have a chance of winning. I supported Corbyn when he became leader and was pleased there was a more socialist agenda, but at the end of the day I would rather have a more centrist Labour Party that can be elected than a Corbyn-led party that leads to Conservative governments forever. Rightly or wrongly, he is never going to win over the electorate now. I wish he'd stood down in 2017.

DippyAvocado · 12/12/2019 01:53

I agree he's been stitched up by the press and I think the power of a subjective media is something that needs to be addressed in this country, but the damage to Corbyn is done and he can't recover from it now.

Chocpear · 12/12/2019 01:53

And should Johnson resign if he doesn’t get his majority? Or Swinson if the seat gain is poor?

DeathStare · 12/12/2019 02:02

The membership keep him in power

Of course they do. That's how pretty much all organisations work. The members choose the leader.

I left the party over a number of issues
I'm afraid you don't get to pick who the leader is of an organisation you don't belong to. If you want a say in who the leader is you need to rejoin.

He should but he won't
I disagree with @Doyoumind . Unless he comes close I suspect he will resign.

If BoJo doesn't get a majority he should definitely resign - though nobody seems interested in that - suspect he won't though.

ItsNearlyMorning · 12/12/2019 02:11

David Milliband would make a fantastic party leader .
He needs tempting back into UK politics.

Mumdiva99 · 12/12/2019 02:14

He's the best thing about the Labour party. He would have walked this election if his party had supported him since the last one. He's made swing voters like me think red is an option. The lack of support from his own party has killed it though. I think the way he's handled himself in the face of all the adversity and smear campaigns has been exemplary. He hasn't tantrumed or counter attacked he's just got on and done his job. Who do you want instead?

lboogy · 12/12/2019 02:19

I think he should have resigned many years ago. It's likely he won't. There's no one else with his record of fighting the establishment.

I do agree with his policies for the most part but I think there's a need for someone centre left who will attract conservatives. Sadly I think the party is so far left that it won't make room for a broader church of voters.

It's quite sad that the party seems to think lefties good, conservatives bad. It's quite immature and likely to lead to labour being out of office for many many more years to come. It's like labour needs another 18 years of defeat to get the picture

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DeRigueurMortis · 12/12/2019 02:20

Death

Since I've resigned I appreciate the downside was that am no longer in a position to vote for a leader. It's something I deliberated over and considered carefully. However, I couldn't ultimately reconcile my membership with my views on some key issues (for me).

I don't dislike him and think that he actually has some admirable qualities.

However, it's fair to say he's lost a lot of previous Labour voters without being able to garner enough new interest in the party to replace them never mind win.

Should Boris resign - well yes if he fails to win a majority!!! Frankly I hope he loses his seat!

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Buyitinbamboo · 12/12/2019 02:32

Yes I think he should. But I also think Boris should if the Tories lose too.

HesterBlue · 12/12/2019 07:03

Yes he should. The job of the leader of the opposition is to oppose the government. He's not done that effectively so he should resign.

JacobReesClunge · 12/12/2019 07:05

I wish he'd go anyway...

He will go if the Tories get a decent majority of course. Hung Parliament is more difficult to call, especially if Labour and the Tories were both to lose seats. Basically there is still scope for him to improve the party position without winning.

ThebishopofBanterbury · 12/12/2019 07:14

Yes he should resign, and I say that as a labour supporter. I respect him so much as a person, but we will never win until we have a more moderate leader.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 12/12/2019 07:19

He's said he will but I'm not too sure whether he will or not.

Realistically if he'd have resigned 6 months ago Labour could have walked this election.