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If Labour fail to win the election do you think Corbyn should resign?

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DeRigueurMortis · 12/12/2019 01:18

He’s lost/losing 2 elections the Labour Party should have won.

The membership keep him in power.

I left the party over a number of issues and feel enraged we don’t have an opposition that’s able to challenge one of the most feeble Tory leader/party in history.

I’m still “red” and will be voting tactically for Labour, but with a heavy heart.

I believe he should resign (and have done so before now) am I unreasonable?

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Answerthequestion · 12/12/2019 11:01

David Milliband would make a fantastic party leader .
He needs tempting back into UK politics.

This is my dream. He has been campaigning all over the place with the moderate labour MP’s over the last couple of weeks.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 12/12/2019 11:04

@Harpingon my mom lives in her constituency and loves her. I think she's a bit of a twat.

Like she makes some really valid points and won't take any shit, but some of the comments she makes are a bit extreme like "I grew up being taught to hate all Tories."

I'd love to see her chatting with Trump though Grin

Letseatgrandma · 12/12/2019 11:06

I would imagine he’ll resign fairly soon either way-he is 70.

Hopefully Keir Starmer will take over.

EpcotForever · 12/12/2019 11:11

Get him out and Dianne Abbott.

sunglasses123 · 12/12/2019 11:19

Saw Diane last night on TV until they rapidly pulled her off. She could barely string two words together and was speaking very slowly.

There is something wrong with her. Problem is that she is the Shadow HS. That is a frightening thought. Are Labour so dense and out of it that they cannot see what a liability she is.

Having said that.... she always gets a stonking majority. Just why???

SlipperyLizard · 12/12/2019 11:29

I’ve tactically voted Lib Dem while holding my nose, because we’ve really got to get the useless Tory MP we have out. But if Corbyn wasn’t such a disaster I’d have had a real dilemma and might have voted Labour (as I have my whole life).

He needs to go, he’s a liability.

Harpingon · 12/12/2019 11:51

*Giveherhellfromus I think the next leader needs to be female and not rooted in the past, I was a Tory voter and have just voted labour for the first time. Jess Phillips give me hope for this country (even if she isn't perfect) . She is based near me and I have seen how much hard work she puts in around here, we need her to do the same nationally 😊

littlepaddypaws · 12/12/2019 12:17

keep him on def. he's good for a laugh with his ideas of grandeur.

VirginiaCreeper · 12/12/2019 12:30

Harpingon I love Jess Phillips and would vote for her in a heartbeat. Sadly the Labour hierarchy do not like her.

Whattodoabout · 12/12/2019 12:33

Yes I think he should as Miliband did following the 2015 election. He has had four years in the job and will have failed to win two elections during that period so it only seems fair. I’d like Emily Thornberry as his successor or someone as bold and wonderful as Dawn Butler.

I will probably always vote Labour regardless tbh but I do think it would be the right thing for Corbyn to do.

Whattodoabout · 12/12/2019 12:34

Having said that.... she always gets a stonking majority. Just why???

Because she’s a good MP.

Sannapaws · 12/12/2019 12:34

I'm a Labour/Green voter and if they lose again they need to get rid of him. He might be a decent man but he's a sh@t politician. An d too old.

ShinyGiratina · 12/12/2019 12:58

I'm a floating voter who's never yet voted Labour (turned 18 during the Blair years) but given the right policies and a strong party, I won't say never.

Corbyn should be laughing and strolling his way into Downing Street tomorrow given the calibre and popularity of the government. And he's not. He's too rigid on policies that are not universally popular such as nationalisation (the railways were horrendously underinvested in prior to privatisation), and on the biggest agenda of Brexit, he's flip flopped around and come up with an unworkable policy after 3 years. Why should the EU waste their time, effort and money on negotiating yet another deal that might not even be supported by the party negotiating it. Utter nonsense!

I haven't really followed the anti-sematism row, but it's rumbled on that long that he's totally tainted by it.

To fail to win two elections against an unpopular government with the baggage he has, he has to go. It would be folly for the Labour Party to limp on with him if they ever want a convincing majority against the Tories.

I'm not voting Labour or Conservative, but at least I know what my safe seat Conservative candidate stands for and the nature of what a Conservative victory will be (runs and hides in a fridge, and recoils in horror) but I don't trust what Labour would achieve. More national debt to repay at some time... but throwing good money after bad is not necessarily going to solve the legacy of a decade of austerity.

endofthelinefinally · 12/12/2019 13:11

Momentum seemed like a good idea at the time but has turned out to be a cautionary tale about giving young, inexperienced, people too much power.

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DeRigueurMortis · 12/12/2019 13:20

My worry is that if Labour do better than expected (as in the last election) JC will see that as a mandate to carry on - as will the party membership in continuing to back him.

In the case we get a hung parliament there's a possibility of yet another GE where as a country we will be presented with the same choices as this one.

I just wonder what it's going to take for the membership to realise that this massive lurch to the left isn't going to get them into government.

Don't get me wrong - I admire much of the ideology but I'd rather see a more centre ground Labour party in power than a leftist party consigned to dwell in opposition for another decade.

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BloodyDisgrace · 12/12/2019 14:49

I want a less rabid person to exist who will nationalise all the current stuff Labour wants to nationalise and will close tax avoidance loophole, but who, at the same time, will:
a) not abolish or "integrate" private schools and
b) leave decent landlords alone and stop at building more council houses as a solution for their housing policy.
I'd vote for that.

Stupiddriver1 · 12/12/2019 14:57

Totally agree. With a decent leader this should have been a labour landslide. Sadly I think he has some power trip going on and will never resign and Momentum love him.

Serin · 12/12/2019 15:06

Both labour and the conservatives have awful leaders.
I would like to see Andy Burnham or Kier Starmer take over if Corbyn steps down.

I would like to see Jeremy Hunt run over by an ambulance.

ChristmasSpirtsOnTheRocksPleas · 12/12/2019 15:12

They’ll have to drag away him kicking and screaming if they want rid of him. He’s hard on the likes of Castro after all.

PerceptionIsReality · 12/12/2019 19:01

I think he should resign and I think he will resign. I don’t think it is reasonable to say he should have resigned before now given the support he has had.

He is unelectable unfortunately. I see that less as his fault (some is) and more the fault of the lying Tories and billionaire controlled press.

Pinkblueberry · 12/12/2019 19:06

He should resign. I know a lot of people who say they would prefer to vote labour but won’t because they can’t stand him. Obviously people should vote for the party, not the person - but we can’t pretend it doesn’t matter to people. He’s losing labour votes, especially from those who are undecided/ disillusioned with politics.

FagashJackie · 13/12/2019 02:26

People should vote for their constituency mp, not party or leader. I hope he resigns.

FagashJackie · 13/12/2019 02:28

They should have jc shaking hands with a rabbi though.

Iggly · 13/12/2019 07:06

He is unelectable unfortunately. I see that less as his fault (some is) and more the fault of the lying Tories and billionaire controlled press

Absolutely unelectable - clearly and just scary just how sucked in people were by the media lies about him. I literally don’t understand how people continued to spout the press lines about him/Labour whenever debates were had.

But at the end of the day the conservatives have won. They won based on a campaign of lies and had only one thing to offer = Brexit. They made no real concrete promises.

Brexit will happen, the country will be fucked and god forbid if you’re on a median to low wage trying to earn a decent living.

God fucking forbid.

Trewser · 13/12/2019 07:10

Shame we don't have a decent opposition to hold them to account isn't it?

Stupid idiots.

As a pp said, Labour lost this rather than the Tories won it.

BJ played an absolute blinder.

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