If Labour fail to win the election do you think Corbyn should resign?

[DeRigueurMortis]

He’s lost/losing 2 elections the Labour Party should have won.

The membership keep him in power.

I left the party over a number of issues and feel enraged we don’t have an opposition that’s able to challenge one of the most feeble Tory leader/party in history.

I’m still “red” and will be voting tactically for Labour, but with a heavy heart.

I believe he should resign (and have done so before now) am I unreasonable?

I am a formerly active member and supporter who gave it up when Labour became Tory lite under Blair. If we had PR the main parties wouldn’t need to be trying to unite Tories like the blairites with proper social democrats like Corbyn and Skinner (and me)

CluelessNewMama

So where is all this extra money coming from? Nobody knows, including Jeremy and his bunch of Muppets....or they are just not saying because voters wouldn't like the reality.

He should definitely resign.

Keir Starmer should be leader

He''ll resign, but my fear is that won't actually help labour much, because you can bet your bottom dollar we're not getting a Keir Starmer or Yvette Cooper to replace him, but some other utter zealot who the public will shun.

What is it that everyone thinks they know that 163 leading economists don’t?

Damn, you really do have to gullible to believe this stuff. The only prominent economist on that list used to work as an adviser ... to the Labour Party!

My dream is that by about June 2020 Kier Starmer or Harriet Harman are PM.

If Corbyn resigns the new leader won't come from the moderate centre-left. The far left has consolidated its influence and the new leader will be a younger Corbyn, likely a woman such as Pidcock. If the centre left wants to be electable it will need a new party, one that will wipe out the LibDems (now Tories under Swinson) and be clearly differentiated from current Labour.

@GiveHerHellFromUs and @orangetwirl The question of where the money comes from is quite clearly covered in that article, and in the Labour manifesto. In short, reversing the significant cuts that the Tories have made to corporation tax, increasing taxes on the top 5%, tackling tax evasion and avoidance, etc. I really don’t see the downside of making huge corporations like Amazon pay more tax so we can all afford to live a little better.

These plans aren’t really even that radical and are very similar to what other European nations are doing.

@CendrillonSings I think you have to be pretty gullible (or selfish?) to believe that it’s okay to carry on as we are with people living in misery, record levels of food banks, record levels of child poverty and not even consider the possibility that the wealthy should pay more to fund a society that looks after everyone.

@CluelessNewMama you and I both know that doesn't make up the £1.3 trillion he needs.

The rest will be borrowed from wealthy countries.
So when we get into bed with Saudi Arabia and can't afford to pay them back, what will Mr 'Stop The War' Corbyn do when they insist we return the favour in other ways, like going to war with our allies for their political and economic gain?

He should have reigned last time. Labour has no chance with the current front bench.

@GiveHerHellFromUs But the Conservatives are borrowing from these counties now at huge levels. The national debt has increased significantly under austerity. So what is the point? Austerity isn’t working.

Damn, you really do have to gullible to believe this stuff

Hilarious. It's gullible to believe experienced established economists ? but Errrr it's ok to believe the tripe that comes out of Boris ( de Pfeffel) Johnson and his off shore mates?

I rather believe 163 economists thanks.

(Where are any substantiated reports from the same number of economists backing the new Tory party in their agenda? ...you'd think a positive forecast would have emerged by now.and.it.hasnt.)

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@CluelessNewMama the numbers are bigger but proportionately national debt has decreased.

Things are much more expensive now than they were 10 years ago. That doesn't mean we're worse off.

And Abbott too

Notice how they've gagged her this election so we all forgot about her and that she could potentially be Home Secretary tomorrow.

Terrifying stuff. Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott .

Wow.

@GiveHerHellFromUs

Things are much more expensive now than they were 10 years ago. That doesn't mean we're worse off.

If you can’t see that we are worse off than 10 years ago, you are living in a bubble.

When you have to wait over a month for a GP appointment, when hospitals consistently lack capacity to treat patients over winter, when record numbers of people are living off food banks, we are most definitely worse off than we were a decade ago.

@CluelessNewMama I'm from an area that's not well off.

We've got fantastic hospitals and have never struggled to get a same day GP appointment.
Maybe we're lucky. Or maybe we just don't take the piss and phone the doctors for bullshit reasons.

There's a real community spirit here too.
Something that lacks in a lot of areas.
If we see a neighbour needs help, we'll give t to them.

Too many people are happy to shit on their neighbours doorstep and then complain that they're having issues.
People with bad attitudes turn up to job interviews in their Lacoste tracksuits then complain they have no money and the system is against them.

He should but he won't.

I like him but yes, I think he should step down some time before the next election at least. Hopefully the young people he inspired to vote last time would remain later and those who dislike him would be brought back. I don't necessarily believe that a different leader would win today's election though.

Yes he should. If he doesn't, it will show that he isn't really bothered about winning elections, he just wants to be an ageing student protester, as another PP has put it. He really does remind me of Michael Foote in 1982. I hope Labour don't lose by that margin, though (I don't think they will but I think they'll lose).

As for Boris Johnson, yes he should resign in those circumstances. And he will resign; Tory party leaders always resign if they don't win these days.

Left leaning ex labour voter who won't vote for JC here.
If he had resigned after the last defeat I might be voting Labour, I always have.
I say might because the grip of momentum suggests his replacement would be as bad. Rebecca LB is being touted as his successor and I think it's a shame that they can't offer someone with more talent. The entire front bench are weak.

I voted labour and actually have nothing really against Corbyn

But I think he has been so vilified by the right wing press and even within his own party, that labour are unelectable with him in charge.

With the Tories hiding in fridges, this really shouldn’t be a difficult one for any one not hiding in fridges to win, but I’m sadly expecting the fridge hider and front bench sprawler to win

I did kind of admire how he stayed after they lost the last election, there has been too much football manager style resign and replace after 1 loss, just look at the day after Brexit, nearly everyone was handing in their notice. However I think he should go now, but the Party has become so divided now that I don’t think theres anyone who could lead without being painted as a “Blairite” or a Marxist by the press.

If he does then please vote for Jess Phillips as leader.