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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask who you are voting for and why?

269 replies

theworldhasgonecrazy1 · 11/12/2019 16:05

Just interested as I've been really debating with myself this year and am not really convinced by any party

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Logjam · 12/12/2019 08:44

Lib Dem - best tactical choice, also I think the candidate is genuinely impressive and local - would love him to be our MP - we are currently served by a careerist Tory, who behaves like helping his constituents is beneath him - unfortunately he is very likely to return.

Skyejuly · 12/12/2019 08:45

Yes, same. Why do people vote for a utterly useless MP. Our current tory local one isnt even local. She is vile.

hoxtonbabe · 12/12/2019 08:46

Labour but I must admit given my MP is Corbyns right hand woman whom I really find useless but not as useless as her secretary who runs her surgeries and one day when I went in deemed it totally professional to pick and check at his well manicured nails whilst I was explaining my issue to him and then continue to stare around the room showing zero interest in what I was saying.

Not sure if he still works for her but I detest them both ( him more so) so I’m in a real pickle

notquiteruralbliss · 12/12/2019 08:47

Labour. For similar reasons to MySharona. I grew up on a council estate. It’s thanks to a decent comprehensive and a free university place that I am now one of the people who will pay more tax under Labour.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 12/12/2019 08:51

I personally won't be voting for the first time because I'm several hours away from home in hospital with my DC and the emergent proxy vote looks like something I don't have the headspace right deal with whilst my son is in surgery.
However, DH was undecided so he has voted for me and we went tactically with Labour, we live in a safe Tory seat and actually our local Tory MP is a lovely lady who has supported us and helped us a lot but I can't in good conscience vote for her knowing it would be a vote for Boris and his policies.

We come into hospital every 6-8 weeks for 2-3 weeks at a time and a thought the staff remain dedicated and amazing, the noticeable slip in care standards is astounding every single time we're here, through sheer underfunding and understaffing.
Our local school is also on its knees, kids are being pulled out left right and centre because the school simply can not cope with the basic needs of kids let alone their high percentage of children with SEN.

I still sadly think there will be a Tory majority and I'm sick at the thought.

Skyejuly · 12/12/2019 08:52

I hope ok goes ok PP. School factors worry me so much

ConcernedAuntie · 12/12/2019 09:02

I still don't know who to vote for, if at all. A vote is precious thing and why would you give something precious to someone you don't trust? I don't think I could trust any of them with my weekly shop. If I asked them for Branston baked beans Boris with come back with Heinz because they are the most visible brand and he couldn't be bothered to look for the ones I wanted; Jeremy would come back with the shops own economy brand and tell me to give the difference to someone with 6 kids and no job; Jo would tell me I didn't really want beans and come back with tinned tomatoes. And anyway, none of them will do what they have promised. What a bloody shower. Not that I think the politcians in other countries are any better.

lonelyplanetmum · 12/12/2019 09:07

I'm normally a Labour voter and (sometimes Green In locals).I voted LibDem for the first time because that is the only party that can beat the Tory MP here. Also the local LibDem Candidate is compassionate and principled.

The local Tory MP is one of the dominant millionaire ones in cabinet with money overseas. He makes money when the pound falls. He votes to protect bankers' bonuses and to reduce disability and welfare benefits for the most in need.

Check your MPs voting record...
www.theyworkforyou.com/

Also google the statistics for your constituency in 2017 and see who is most likely to beat the Tory.

olivehater · 12/12/2019 10:10

Lib Dem’s. Don’t want Brexit. Don’t want Corbyn. So it’s the only viable option for me. So depressing, a more centre left Labour Party with a more reasonable leader would prob have been a shoe in. If we end up with Brexit it will be Corbyns fault.

Zzzz19 · 12/12/2019 10:19

I voted Labour after a long time thinking about it. I hate Corbyn though and won’t be disappointed if he loses. The Labour MP does a lot of good work in this constituency though and the alternatives all lived out of town as it is such a safe seat.

Mia1415 · 12/12/2019 10:42

I'm in a very safe Tory seat and I've always voted for them as I like my local MP. I don't agree with all his views and the way he has voted but I think he does a good job for us locally.

However, I've voted labour (first time ever). I don't want Brexit and I don't trust Johnson to manage anything let alone lead a country.

I don't agree with many of Corbyn's views either and don't actually want him as PM.

Never, have I thought so long and hard about who to vote for.

LyndaLaHughes · 12/12/2019 11:56

Labour because of this-

1,000 sure start centres closed.
780 libraries closed.
700 football pitches closed.
Food bank use up 2,400%.
Homelessness up 1,000%.
Rough sleeping up 1,200%
Bedroom tax caused mass evictions.
Evictions are running at record highs.
35% of U.K. kids live in poverty.
Student fees up 300%.
Student debt has risen 150%.
Eradication of EMA (education maintenance allowance).
National debt has risen from £850billion to £2.25trillion.
Emergency Brexit stimulus from BoE in June 2016 of £175b.
Brexit related fall in national revenue £500b.
GDP fallen to -0.1%.
GBP fallen by circa 15% versus EUR and USD.
Manufacturing in recession.
Construction in recession.
Services close to recession.
25-30% cuts to all govt departments.
25-30% cuts to all councils, mainly centred on Labour councils.
Half of councils facing effective bankruptcy.
185k extra deaths attached to the political ideology of austerity.
25,000 less police.
20,000 less prison officers.
10,000 less border officials.
10,000 less firefighters.
10,000 less medical professionals.
25,000 less bed spaces for mental illness.
OECD calculate 3 million hidden unemployed, rate is really 13%.
Creation of 1.3m jobs, mainly temporary, self employed, gig economy and ZHC.
Only 30k full time work positions created.
Close on 50% of workers are self employed, ZHC, or part time precariat.
80% of the 5.3 million self employed live below the poverty line.
35% of self employed only earn £100 a month.
25% cuts for our disabled community.
80% cuts to Mobility allowance.
Closing Remploy.
40% of working households have practically no savings.
70% of households have less than 10k savings.
60% of households can only survive 2 months without a wage.
Household debt reaches new peak, despite emergency base rates.
Increase of 50% in hate crimes.
Increase of knife crime by 150% to 22,000 per year.
Increase in teenage suicide by 70%.
Suicide up 12% in the year 2018.
Self harm among young women up 70%.
Life expectancy down 3 years.
NHS satisfaction level at lowest recorded rate.
Council home building down 90%.
200k social homes lost since 2010.
Zero starter homes built, despite Tory flagship programme.
Council home building down 90%.
200k social homes lost since 2010.
One million families on council home waiting list.
100,000 increase on the council home waiting list since 2010.

DowntownAbby · 12/12/2019 12:52

Brexit related fall in national revenue £500b.

Fucking hell, someone's started drinking early!

Treaclepie19 · 12/12/2019 13:45

@LyndaLaHughes 👏 great post.

Monsterinmyshoe · 12/12/2019 14:11

Labour. It was between Lib Dem and Labour. What clinched it was being a public sector worker and the fact that I'm voting tactically. I'm not expecting to see hardly anything being implemented on any of the parties manifestos, but I do want a party that wants to end poverty and actually fucking mean it. At least try.

I think we are headed for a massive recession anyway regardless of what happens, so I am just voting on principles rather than the expectation of seeing all the changes promised (and yes I am aware of prejudices in all the main parties) but my main focus is stopping a Tory majority. I do think we are headed for one though. Must stock the fridge with "blotting it out" wine and the freezer with commiserating ice-cream, and not forget I'm on a news ban for the next week.

passthetea · 12/12/2019 14:23

I have never voted. Some dickhead will run this country regardless Confused

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 12/12/2019 14:27

Labour. Because i have children & i want a more equal future. Im a tax specialist and I'm the first to say trickle down doesnt work and actually you dont have to have rock bottom tax rates to have a successful economy and generate growth and investment

Daisychainsandglitter · 12/12/2019 14:29

Labour- I have a child with special needs and have seen first hand what the funding cuts in education are doing to schools and children with special needs.
I've never voted Tory but I find their shift to the right quite frightening.

EatDessertFirst · 12/12/2019 14:45

Green as I agree with some of their environmental policies. A safe Tory seat here unfortunately. I despise our current leadership and none of them are fit to run this country. Nothing will change immediately and the same shite will happen year on year. Yawn!

colouringinpro · 12/12/2019 14:49

I voted tactically to try and get rid of my Tory MP.

I'm voting to Remain, for the NHS, education, social care, for the most vulnerable in our society. And against the toxic Tories.

If you're not sure who that is where you are, see

www.comparethetacticals.com

missfliss · 12/12/2019 15:27

@Daisychainsandglitter

Me too.

My childs future was hanging in the balance this time last year, it was only an inheritance (which yes had inheritance tax paid on it) that meant we could pay for the private reports needed to prove his needs and compel the underfunded LA to move him to a suitable school.

It shouldn't be like this and I despise, utterly utterly despise Tory policies for what they have done to disabled and SEN kids.

I do not despise conservative voters, but I am gutted that so many support crippling austerity.

contentedsoul · 12/12/2019 15:34

I'm not voting..
Tories can't deliver
Labour is backward thinking
Lib Dems & Brexit are a wasted vote

I'm through with even caring anymore. The only people that benefit seems to be those employed within. Amazing pensions and ridiculous pay rises. BUT, if you're working class and heaven forbid working....you'll reap fuck all!!

So, what's the point..?
…..There simply isn't one!!

colouringinpro · 12/12/2019 15:37

contented to try and save the NHS from collapse/further privatisation?

contentedsoul · 12/12/2019 15:40

colouringinpro - Having witnessed 3yrs of chaos with Brexit, do you really, honestly believe the NHS will seize to exist..ofcourse not. But they're using it as bait.

colouringinpro · 12/12/2019 16:43

No I agree that it won't cease immediately. But privatisation will increase unchallenged. Services will fail as a result of current staff shortages which will increase when more EU staff leave the UK. Staff who are already on their knees will leave and it will get to the point where the Tories can say, look it was great but it's not working any more. And then it will go.

Meanwhile Brexit recession and decreasing tax revenues will cause more public sector cuts, and the poorest, disabled, elderly, mentally ill, homeless and other vulnerable people will be totally screwed.

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