To think if you earn under 85k or aren't selfish its a no brainier to vote Labour?

[voteJC]

It's closer than ever. They have promised to end homelessness, fix the NHS, the biggest grants ever to improve home insulation, pay the WASPI women the money that was taken from them and so much more.

The only down side is people earning over 85k will pay 5% more tax. It's so little for so much.

It's closer than ever and I the country would be so much better with labour.

European Environment Agency -
www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/indicators/sea-level-rise-6/assessment

"The rate of global mean sea level rise during the 21st century will very likely be higher than during the period 1971-2015. Process-based models considered in theIPCCspecial report on the ocean and cryosphere in a changing climateproject a rise in sea level over the 21st century in the range of 0.29-0.59m for a low-emissions scenario and 0.61-1.10m for a high-emissions scenario. However, substantially higher values cannot be ruled out. Several recent model-based studies, expert assessments and national assessments have suggested an upper bound for 21st century global mean sea level rise in the range of 1.5-2.5m."

Climate.gov - www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level

Sub heading 'Future sea levels'
"On future pathways with the highest greenhouse gas emissions, sea level rise could be as high as 8.2 feet (2.5 meters) above 2000 levels by 2100."

Need any more @TonTonMacoute ?

YABU to start yet another political propaganda thread.
YABU to post this in AIBU without an AIBU question when a perfectly good politics topic exists.
YABU to suggest “it is closer than ever” when the result of the election is the most foregone conclusion in the last 25 years.
YABU to think that lower earners will benefit from these policies. I agree that those on +£80.000 could pay a little extra. But why should those on minimum wage pay even more?
YANBU to have your own opinion though. But you are BU to base it on predisposed emotions and not facts.

I’m voting labour anyway BTW. But not for your reasons - your reasoning is flawed and publicising it reduces labour votes.

@goodluckdon'tdie

One is Corbyn’s support for Samar Alami and Jawad Botmeh. The pair were convicted in the 1990s in connection with a car bomb explosion outside the Israeli Embassy in London and another against a building in London that housed a number of British Jewish charities. Not only did Corbyn run a campaign to get these two released from prison, but when they were released he acted as a character referee for at least one of them, claiming that Botmeh was a suitable person to be involved in the governance of a British university. Why would he do that? Of all the people in the prison system up and down this land, why would Corbyn have put such effort into getting a release for these two (and praising them, at that) who had been involved in the bombing of Jewish targets in London?

There are too many similar actions in Corbyn’s resume to cite here. But one other voice rings in my ears as I write this. The voice of an Israeli Jewish friend. Having not been back to the UK in some years I hear now the question he asked me as we travelled in a taxi together in Jerusalem last year. ‘You know, I thought I knew Britain, Douglas’ he said to me. ‘Good and bad, I thought I knew it. But how do you explain Jeremy Corbyn?’ This was just after the ‘wreath row’ when Jeremy Corbyn was accused of laying a wreath at the grave of the men who killed the Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics in 1972. ‘I mean – honouring the men who killed the athletes at Munich?’ my friend went on, shaking his head in quiet amazement. ‘And this man is accepted by the British public?’

As I say, I could easily go on. Anyone could. And for those who are still inclined to vote for the Labour party on Thursday perhaps nothing can now be said. They include people who hate the Conservative party and think that they must always vote Labour for tribal reasons. And they include people who think that whatever the unpleasantness that may linger around Corbyn and McDonnell and co it can be put down as a second order of business after the priority of getting the Conservative party out of office.

HappyInL0nd0n

I don't understand... you just copy and pasted from the link you already posted.

So my response would again be:

The thing is, the only actual example given in that article (as supposedly the biggest evidence of him being an anti-semite) is the Samar Alami and Jawad Botmeh story twice explained in this thread already.

Corbyn is a perpetual rebel who latches on to whoever he perceives as the underdog or put upon minority. Which leads him to support and excuse people who are vile because he perceives them as the victim.
Just about bearable in a back bench MP but utterly unacceptable in a PM.
I don’t like Johnson either but I don’t trust McDonnell or Corbyn.

Not the lesser of two evils but the evil of two lessers.

*Sir John Major is saying a Conservative majority would be a disaster.

@niteFlights only because he is a staunch Remainer*

He also said the NHS is as safe in Tory hands as a hamster with a hungry python. Dominic Cummings says the current Tory party doesn’t care about the NHS.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 laughing at the complete naivety of people who believe the promises politicians make when seeking re-election. Having lived through 11+ general elections I have become a grumpy old cynic whose vote is no one else’s business. Living in a non marginal constituency means I can vote according to my conscience because it will make no difference to the result.

..pay the WASPI women the money that was taken from them...

I am a WASPI. If I was selfish, I would be voting Labour. In fact, I think it's a cynical attempt to buy my vote.

If that money is available, I think it would be better spent on schools or the police.

willdoitinaminute

I know right? So many stupid people voting for stupid parties based on stupid reasons! I, meanwhile, in my far superior intellect, am voting for a good party for very clever reasons! I won't say who though because that's nobody else's business! But trust me, I'm really smart!

goodluckdon'tdie

Fair enough. I was being a bit lazy posting the article quite.

Presuming you're asking in good faith, I was flagging that he had been present at the wreath laying ceremony for the murderers of the Israeli Munich athletes. Then there was the incident where he accidentally "liked" the anti-Semitic mural. These are not isolated instances, nor are they easily explained away. If he'd spent an equal amount of time with prominent racists or paedophiles, I'm sure you'd see the issue plainly enough.

And the fact that he's done virtually nothing to stem the anti-Semitism rise in Labour, the prominent, repeated and vocal complaints from all mainstream Jewish organisations, the investigation by the European Human Rights Commission (first outside the BNP), etc, etc...

Why do you think none of this matters?

The waspi women 🙄. They shouldn't be taking 5% of anyone's wages to give to a bunch of women that didn't bother reading a paper for 20 years and so they can sit and do sod all at 60 years old while men and the rest of us will have to work until god knows when

I am a WASPI, I won’t be voting labour.
They don’t have the money to pay for it & will have to borrow even more. It was a cynical vote buying attempt.

The waspi women 🙄. They shouldn't be taking 5% of anyone's wages to give to a bunch of women that didn't bother reading a paper for 20 years and so they can sit and do sod all at 60 years old while men and the rest of us will have to work until god knows when

You clearly have zero knowledge of the issue. Perhaps research it before you pontificate.

I’m a lifelong Labour voter. I won’t be voting for them because JC is a communist idiot. I want to live in a capitalist society not a Marxist commune.

I won’t be voting for them because JC is a communist idiot. I want to live in a capitalist society not a Marxist commune.

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Yip you are BU

I’m voting Labour even though we have our own company and will pay more corporation tax. Happy to do so if it means foodbanks are no longer needed and Johnson is not PM.

Alsohuman, I've read plenty on it and I have a mil that is classed as a waspi. She doesn't get why women are fighting for equality but a select few want a pay out at 60 when there WAS warning given. None of us get written to individually telling us what age we will receive a state pension do we? No and no one ever has. It's your business to find out and plan. Life expectancy is much more than it was so it's ridiculous to expect to be paid a pension at 60 when you're still capable of working when there's children starving and all sorts. Height of selfishness! And no, no one should have to pay an extra 5% of their hard earned wage to supplement people able to work. If a man can work until 66/67, so can women.

Life expectancy has increased so much at some point the pension age will shift. What Labour is promising is a huge bill, like all the other ones.

Yes, you absolutely should vote Labour. But for everyone.

I do have to laugh at how many martyrs there are on these threads:

"I'm a high-earner but I'll happily pay more and more tax and make my family worse off because I care about 'society'"

I call bullshit, either (a) you're lying about your income and you'll actually be better off under labour OR (b) you're virtue-signalling and will vote Tory tomorrow.

Not voting Labour under Corbyn / Momentum.

Not voting Tory either!

High earner here. Voting labour.

If the WASPI women get compensation, will they then get the old state pension of around £130 per week, or the new state pension of £165 per week?

I’m a NHS doctor and will be voting labour. All my friends who are consultants and GPs are voting labour with a few voting green depending on where they live.