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SIL constantly wanting me to step in for child care, on nightshifts!

279 replies

Niki93 · 10/12/2019 16:47

So, my sister in law recently got offered a job in our local hospital in the A&E department, which was great, but obviously meant difficult long days that could involve nightshift. Which she knew. She and my brother have two kids (4&6). My brother works away offshore so she needs childcare during her shifts after school time.

I work full time, 9-5 (sometimes hours outside of this, in a role thats slightly emotionally draining) im also 18 weeks pregnant with my first. I offered to watch the kids 2x a week maximum between 6pm-9pm depending on when her shifts finished etc. As i felt this was the most i could do as im struggling with migraines often from the pregnancy.

She asked me the other week if i could babysit the kids 3 nights in a row on a monday tuesday and Wednesday NIGHT(to sleep over) when im at work in the mornings, whilst she does nightshifts. She suggested she would pick them up in the morning before i start work, however shes renowed poor time keeping. Meaning i could be late for work if the kids arent picked up in time when she finishes nightshift.

I personally found this abit cheeky. Its alot of commitment off me when i have my own things going on. As a family (me, my mam and sister) we all told her she knew what she was going into when she accepted her nursing job in A&E, and that doing night shifts with two young kids and a partner who works away was never going to be manageable. She ignored our points because she wanted the job, and has took it upon herself to think that me and my mother will constantly be at her disposal for when she needs a sitter.

I politely declined, and stuck to my agreement of 2 nights a week for a couple hours. Shes not happy with this and now reluctantly replying to me for anything, probably in a huff. AIBU?

(Both her parents dont work and havnt for 20 years, but they wont support as much because they’re ‘in their late 60’s and find it hard’)

OP posts:
Panpastels · 10/12/2019 21:57

Completely unreasonable request and if you did agree, you would then find it very hard to stop doing once you started .

Summery1 · 10/12/2019 22:00

I assume that your SiL is looking forward to reciprocating your babysitting hours, when your baby arrives. Hmm

Katkat93 · 10/12/2019 22:04

Yanbu! Your SIL is very lucky she could afford to and have families support to get her degree. I'd of loved to have done that but could never afford being a student and pay for childcare so I'm stuck in a shit low paid job that because it suits my children (I'm not complaining, my own fault for having children before getting a good career, just making a point) Also just out of curiosity do you have a partner? If so what is their take on this?

Ellapaella · 10/12/2019 22:05

I would totally do this. She's doing a worthwhile job in a busy A&E department where they are desperate for staff. I'd put up with the mild inconvenience personally - she's not actually being that cheeky in my opinion. She has a valid reason to ask for some help with childcare. I would do it if I could.

gingerbiscuits · 10/12/2019 22:09

You sound amazing while she sounds like a massive cheeky f*cker!! Don't give in or feel guilty...her kids...her job...her problem. You're doing her a huge favour at a time when you're undoubtedly knackered & not feeling particularly well. She needs you more than you need her!!

ShabbyNat · 10/12/2019 22:10

Im sorry, but Ive not read the whole thread, regarding the migraines-are you drinking enough fluids?? When I had my 2 DD`S, many years ago, I had headaches most of my 1st pregnancy & apparently it was due to a lack of fluids!! My 2nd pregnancy, I made sure to up my fluids & had far fewer headaches,
I know headaches & migraines are totally different, but do you think more fluids might help??
Sorry to de-rail your threadXmas BlushXmas Blush

Niki93 · 10/12/2019 22:12

@kittykat93 its a shame you didnt get that support, as it does go a long way. My partner also works full time, he also thinks shes asking abit too much...the both of us do enjoy having the kids over, but we know once we say yes to one nightshift, she will constantly expect it. You give her an inch and she’ll often take a mile. He said with me being pregnant now that we need to be vigilant to what we offer which i totally agree and is our plan going forward.

@Summery1 yep, when she wants child care she usually says ‘i promise il repay the favour when you have a baby’ (but I don’t see how she will? I mean its pretty clear she wont/cant...) safe to say when i announced my pregnancy her face dropped and she shit herself. Ive never had an offer since 😂 i knew that was a fake gesture the second it left her mouth. Unlike her in dont expect her to make commitments for me. My child will be my responsibility. Ive already had to make amendments to my return to work to next year to suit the 3 of us...il be going part time and probably paying for childcare on the days im at work when my partners also at work.

OP posts:
HouseworkAvoider10 · 10/12/2019 22:17

YANBU.
CF. And a child dumper.

Summery1 · 10/12/2019 22:19

@Niki93 I'm not surprised. IME these kind of babysitting takers, tend to have short memories.

anomoony · 10/12/2019 22:21

she said ‘ill just try and leave half an hour early’

From A&E? Lol.

Ihatesundays · 10/12/2019 22:22

@Ellapaella SIL wouldn’t get back until after OP needs to leave for work. How do you suggest she does it then.
What if there was a massive emergency and SIL couldn’t leave work. What is OP meant to do about her own job.
Not a mild inconvenience.

Niki93 · 10/12/2019 22:23

@anomoony i know. She’s known for telling a porky pie just to get us to say yes, then pleads ignorance when she turns up late. I know that wasn’t possible. If her shift was 8pm-8am, then reality for her means id if still had the kids by 9am. I wasnt falling for it.

OP posts:
Lunde · 10/12/2019 22:29

Your SIL will have to accept the consequences of her own stubbornness and refusal to compromise

  • she wants to maximize her own career and income
  • she wants bil to maximize his career and income
  • she doesn't want to spend any of that income on childcare - she has refused bil's offer to pay for childcare

She cannot have it all ways and exploit family to maximize income while expecting family to provide FREE childcare

Lunde · 10/12/2019 22:33

@Ellapaella - I would totally do this. She's doing a worthwhile job in a busy A&E department where they are desperate for staff. I'd put up with the mild inconvenience personally - she's not actually being that cheeky in my opinion. She has a valid reason to ask for some help with childcare. I would do it if I could.

But it would stop OP being able to get to her own job.

OP has to leave at 8.00am to get to work. Her SIL doesn't FINISH her shift until 8.00am (and in A&E there is no guarantee that she will then leave ontime) then she has to commute home. So OP would would end up an hour late to her own work!

In any case OP's DB has offered to pay for childcare - but SIL has refused as she doesn't want to spend the money!

Drum2018 · 10/12/2019 22:42

@Ellapaella if you just pass on your details to @Niki93 I'm sure she'll be delighted to pass them on to her CF sil so you can take over the free childcare Hmm

Niki93 · 10/12/2019 22:48

@drum2018 hahaa what a brilliant idea. @Ellapaella Do you have a going rate? If so, SIL wont pay it.

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Cacacoisfarraige · 10/12/2019 23:01

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lisag1969 · 10/12/2019 23:07

Hospital should have an overnight nursery for kids whose parents need it.
Most hospitals do. Tell her to check it out

Nicknacky · 10/12/2019 23:09

Genuine question, can a school age child really be expected to go to overnight nursery (if they exist at that hospital) when mum works till 8 at the earliest, get home then get to school for 9?

BlouseAndSkirt · 10/12/2019 23:23

mild inconvenience ???

Picking 2 kids up from after school club, giving them tea, entertaining them, having them over night or until 9, 2 nights a week? And overnight, 2 kids to get up, sorted out, washed, breakfasted as well as getting self to work on time..... which we know is not possible..,,

Sorry, that is not ‘mild inconvenience ‘ , especially for a pregnant woman.

Where is her evening tv viewing / long bath ?

Those if you saying keep the kids overnight - do you have to be all ready for work and leave the house at 8?

And by the time the SIL is an HOUR late picking them up ( her shift finishes 8, which means maybe 8.30, and then travel...) making OP an hour late... that is stress,

RhinoskinhaveI · 10/12/2019 23:24

The sister-in-law wants to have her cake and eat it ....the only way to have your cake and eat it is by stealing someone else's cake
She is trying to steal your freedom in order to get her the freedom to do what she wants

3luckystars · 10/12/2019 23:25

I dont know if this is the same where you are but a and e nurses are needed here on a call in basis. Short notice shifts. They get a load of money for it, my friends husband is offshore too and she does it when he comes home for a few weeks and she is available for shifts. She earns more in a few nights than 2 weeks wages.

Your sil sounds like someone I know, dont help her anymore, just tell her get an aupair or change jobs that you have migraines. P.s. she doesnt care. Good luck.

GrumpyHoonMain · 10/12/2019 23:34

While I agree that OP doesn’t owe her sil any childcare, I would personally be very careful to keep this about you and your circumstances and don’t mention what the other people in your family do or don’t do for her. It’s likely OP, as a daughter having a first baby, will naturally receive a lot more support from her mum and sister than the sil has in terms of childcare - you don’t want to get into a position where you’re having to justify any unfair childcare arrangements your mum / sister want to arrange with you.

NurseButtercup · 11/12/2019 00:29

I agree with @lunde you should just say no. Please don't offer any alternative solutions or reasons why you can't help to cover night shifts, she'll try and talk you around/make you feel guilty. I hope you feel better better soon and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 11/12/2019 00:50

Mild inconvenience 🤣 the time between getting home from school and bed isn't called the witching hour (more like 3) for nothing!