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Are the conservatives really this popular?

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LabourHere · 02/12/2019 20:57

Listening to statistician on BBC who reckons the conservatives are head in all polls and will win a majority on election day.

I know only two people voting conservative (mil and dm). Who are all the other conservative voters??

Are the conservatives really going to win the election so easily?

If so...I'm very very sad Sad Wine

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MistyCloud · 02/12/2019 22:49

Yep @LabourHere you are living in a bubble.

And many more people support Conservative than you think. Why do they keep winning if that is not the case?

I foresee Conservatives sweeping the boards, having a bigger majority than they have had for YEARS, and all the lefties/far left liberal left, crying about it and blaming the 'old people.' (As they always do.)

If they want to blame anyone, they need to blame Jeremy Corbyn. Since he has been Leader, Labour have gone to shit, and lost multiple millions of followers. Former Labour followers (over the past 3-4 years,) have gone to UKIP, The Brexit Party, and Conservatives. Some have even gone to The Green Party. If Corbyn would throw in the towel and feck off, we may be able to get the bloody Conservatives out. As long as he is leader, Labour will never win, and Conservatives will stay in power.

Corbyn has not helped his cause with refusing to answer questions about the IRA, and refusing to tell us his genuine stance on how he feels about the EU. And he did himself (and Labour) no favours on that debate the other night, when he said 'Terrorists don't always need to be locked up after they attack someone!' RIGHT after the attack in London the other day.

That put Labour's final nail in coffin. Get ready for a Conservative Government AGAIN.

I almost wish Conservatives DO get a landslide win, then the Labour party will HAVE to get rid of Corbyn. They HAVE to. They have lost EVERYTHING since he became leader. And multiple millions of people (who have deserted the party, and who dislike Corbyn,) cannot possibly all be wrong!

ArseDarkly · 02/12/2019 22:53

Plus, on your point 5 - what state do you think the economy will be in with months/years of continuing Brexit uncertainty and threat of no-deal?

madeyemoodysmum · 02/12/2019 22:55

Yep typical Tory me Grin

I’d just rather not have a bankrupt country in ten years thanks.

Alsohuman · 02/12/2019 22:56

Why do they keep winning if that is not the case?

One election victory out of three in the last nine years isn’t “keeping winning”. Winning means a majority.

ArseDarkly · 02/12/2019 22:57

Why ten years?Confused

UrsulaPandress · 02/12/2019 22:57

Oooh. Like Brexit.

MistyCloud · 02/12/2019 22:57

You know Labour is fucked up to the extreme, when people who have been lifelong die-hard Labour supporters are voting for the bastard Conservatives! Angry

Logjam · 02/12/2019 22:57

Yep typical Tory me grin

I’d just rather not have a bankrupt country in ten years thanks.

You'll not be voting for a leave party then`/

MistyCloud · 02/12/2019 22:59

@Alsohuman

The Conservatives win more than bloody LABOUR do (since that useless lump Corbyn became leader.)

He is a liability.. As long as he is leader, Labour will NEVER win an election. Never.

ArseDarkly · 02/12/2019 22:59

They have lost EVERYTHING since he became leader

What are you blethering about?

Hottap · 02/12/2019 23:01

I'm from Birmingham (where the pub bombings took place for those of you too young to remember). How can Labour expect anyone over 40 to vote for them when they appoint as chancellor a man who said this:
“It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA.”
And he didn't say it when he was a young student. He said it when he was middle aged.
If Labour want people to vote for them again, they have to find a way to chuck their nasty dimwitted top team in the dustbin of history where they belong. In the meantime we have to vote Conservative to keep them out.

MistyCloud · 02/12/2019 23:01

@madeyemoodysmum

Don't be silly. 😝 The country will be bankrupt in 10 MONTHS with Corbyn/Labour's batshit spending plans. Not 10 years!!!

DisorganisedOrganiser · 02/12/2019 23:01

NHS worker here so I’m in a pretty left wing bubble. My colleagues are horrified about another 4 years of Tory power and of what Brexit will mean for medicine availability etc. My social media is full of anti Tory posts. However, I am fully aware I am in a bubble. There is a resignation among everyone I talk to in the NHS that we don’t think the Tories can lose Sad.

I think the Tories will win by a landslide. People vote for what benefits them in the short term. They close their eyes to the possibility of needing NHS care in the future and they want to ‘get Brexit done’ despite the fact it never should get done.

I sincerely hope I am wrong.

MistyCloud · 02/12/2019 23:02

@ArseDarkly

What are YOU blethering about?

Labour have lost everything since Corbyn came into power.

Not that hard to understand.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 02/12/2019 23:02

If Labour had a different leader one that didn’t have dubious friends, had provided a good strong opposition and dealt with the anti Semitism head on they would stand a good chance of winning even agains Boris Johnson who is popular with voters - as someone pointed out upthread he won’t (or the Conservative party) do particularly well in the election in London as London is Labour City but he did win two major elections and would have probably a third and he won over voters to vote leave

Foolish to underestimate his appeal (you don’t have to get it)

So if Labour were not under the stronghold of the left of the party the Tories probably wouldn’t win but Labour are always the party who have to work harder to gain votes Blair got this understood the middle floating voters are essential for Labour to gain power we a a conservative country with a little c - it’s the way it is. Stick with left wing ideology and all you have is plans for when we are in power rather than plans that you can actually put into action

ArseDarkly · 02/12/2019 23:06

How have they lost 'everything'? They have one of the largest membership of any political party in Europe. They are the official Opposition and current polls show the gap narrowing. You sound ridiculous

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 02/12/2019 23:08

I too work for the NHS (mh) I am actually surprised how many are conservative voters or rather they like Boris Johnson

There are some Corbyn supporters too, and those who are usually labour voters but won’t vote for Corbyn - so appears quite representative

curlykaren · 02/12/2019 23:08

More people in the country will be voting for parties other than conservative but our shit first past the post system means that is not reflected in governance. If they get 40% of votes cast the rest of us still have to put up with their utter lunacy. I'm imagining no deal Brexit, full blown recession with huge tax rises across the board, NHS underperforming to the point that it is virtually useless. Big finance and industry relocates creating massive unemployment, minimal welfare state to support the unemployed causing a huge rise in crime. Rich people get mugged, robbed and assaulted but can't understand why the police take 45 mins to answer a 999 call.

AutumnColours9 · 02/12/2019 23:09

The only Tory voters I know are UKIP fans or DM/Sun readers. I know many Liberal and Labour though.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 02/12/2019 23:12

Ffs the Tories have never had a large party membership and labour’s wasn’t the large under Blair

But guess what both the conservatives and Blair won elections !!!

How many party members what 450k Hmm that doesn’t win an election when there are over 46 million people eligible to vote it just keeps the leader of the party in place of the majority supports her/him

ArseDarkly · 02/12/2019 23:14

My post wasn't directed to you

Milicentbystander72 · 02/12/2019 23:16

I'm voting Tory this time.

I think I'm a shy Tory voter. I like to think I'm not in an echo chamber. My best friend works for a local Momentum group, and admins a local Labour fb Page. She's VERY aggressive in her views. In the last election I told her I wasn't voting for Corbyn (I voted Libdem) and she was so incensed she didn't speak to me for weeks.
Call me stupid but I told I'm never remotely discussing politics with her again.

I also have a good friend who's a Tory MP (not fir my area). He's often on the TV and Radio. I text him often. I literally have told no-one I know him. He's a decent guy, an old school friend, abc I don't want to have a row about him with anyone.

No-one ever votes Tory do they? It's like no-one ever admits to voting for Thatcher even though she had 3 landslide wins.

RedWineIsFabulous · 02/12/2019 23:17

Labour are a liability.

I know all of two people voting for them.

Their policies are fantasy and they'll bankrupt and totally fuck the country within months.

Absolutely no fucking way.

Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott in charge?

You must be kidding. AngryShockAngry

MistyCloud · 02/12/2019 23:17

EXACTLY @EnthusiasmIsDisturbed The tripe some people come up with (usually lefties,) to try and prove their (weak and nonsensical) points just astounds me.

OhTheRoses · 02/12/2019 23:17

Hmm many many friends voting Conservative, us, our parents. Even friends who have voted labour in the past are voting Conservative >>because they aren't communist sympathisers