Are the conservatives really this popular?

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Listening to statistician on BBC who reckons the conservatives are head in all polls and will win a majority on election day.

I know only two people voting conservative (mil and dm). Who are all the other conservative voters??

Are the conservatives really going to win the election so easily?

If so...I'm very very sad

Sorry but if labour lose then they only have momentum and themselves to blame for keeping Corbyn leader.
A more central left should walk the election.

If Corbyn doesn’t step down after this is would be a disgrace.

The same could be said for Johnson.

If I was Johnson and didn't get a clear majority, I'd be off.

Having said that, I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to be a politician.

He'll be off whatever happens, I think.

All the MPs who have been tightly whipped to hold dissent together for the election won't remain quiet afterwards.

I also predict that he'll get bored of 'getting Brexit done' pretty quickly and resign.

I don't think you're right on that - purely because I don't think he takes on the detailed (hard) work himself. I think he'll get a team on it, and give them the free rein to get things done.

But who knows.......

thehorseandhisboy - love your name btw, such a good book.

Bozo won't want to do any actual work, that is for the little people. And he's not interested in detail... so a fine recipe for disaster.

'Second Lib Dem election candidate endorses vote for Labour rival for his seat on day before election'

'Liberal Democrat Rhys Taylor in Cardiff North has become the second of his party’s general election candidates to advise supporters to vote tactically for their Labour rival to defeat Conservatives.

Mr Taylor followed Brendan Devlin in Stockton South, who this morning effectively endorsed his Labour rival in a key marginal seat in the North-East.'
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www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/second-lib-dem-election-candidate-endorses-labour-rival-for-his-seat-a9242541.html

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You'd be pissed off if you were a postal voter in Cardiff North, and had already voted Lib Dem!

Why leave it to the eleventh hour?

I have no idea how anyone could vote for Boris Johnson after his lies in public life, in private life and his litany of abusive writing about minorities and women. I’m sure you’ll all scream at me that I’m wrong but he isn’t fit for high office.

... and so many former senior Conservatives say the same about Bojo - not fit for office.

I have no idea how anyone could vote for Boris Johnson after his lies in public life, in private life and his litany of abusive writing about minorities and women. I think he has really reduced the social standing of MP - he is an utter disgrace. I get people voting for him because they are scared of the alternative but I fear his poor moral values are a new low and will cause a massive shift in how the public perceive politicians - it's low already granted but he is a completely different beast - he has no honour and no shame, he's all about me, me, me...we will be a changed country under his leadership and that to me does not look like a good thing, I hope I'm wrong because it looks like he will be voted in by the very people he will screw over.

Then according to how bad Boris is according to you, this election should have been a gift to labour.

The Truth is Corbyn and his magic money forest are scaring people.

No they aren't.

I don't think you're right on that - purely because I don't think he takes on the detailed (hard) work himself. I think he'll get a team on it

Err - yes. That's how it works. Every minister (inc PM) has a small army of civil servants behind them who actually do the work. The PM and other senior ministers are literally just figureheads mainly for the media and to meet other politicians etc to discuss the big issues. Given the amount of time the senior ministers are doing media interviews, travelling around meeting people, foreign trips, etc. do you really think they have any time left to "do the detail"??

Vote Tory for a hard Brexit orchestrated by Johnson.

Then we'll understand what 'damaging the economy' really means.

mummy2017 The Labour manifesto isn't scaring many economists - they think it's well costed and viable.

www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae

The Truth is Corbyn and his magic money forest are scaring people

They’ll have a lot more reason to be scared if we get a no deal Brexit. The IFS says the cost of that would make Labour’s spending plans look frugal.

How about Corbyn and a no-deal Brexit? How dya like them apples?

It’s one or the other, one rules the other out.

Daily Mail journalist Peter Oborne is clearly not sure about all of Corbyn's policies, but he is sure enough to vote Labour for the first time
twitter.com/OborneTweets/status/1204834654299344907

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...and to warn about Johnson's Tories, as he explained today in this piece in the Guardian:

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'Boris Johnson wants to destroy the Britain I love. I cannot vote Conservative. Johnson’s Conservatives are a revolutionary sect and should be understood as such'

'’I've been a loyal Conservative voter. Until very recently, I’d exclusively worked for Conservative-leaning publications: the Telegraph, Mail, London Evening Standard, Express and Spectator. Most of my friends and relations are Conservative. But I cannot vote Conservative tomorrow.

Something horrible has happened. The Conservative party lies. It cheats. It bullies. It’s not the wise, gentle, decent party of the postwar era.

I wonder whether Boris Johnson and his squalid associates are Conservatives at all. The Conservativism I understand is about public duty, generosity, the instinct to conserve what is good in our society; the importance of the rule of law and of institutions; suspicion of leaps in the dark. I am thinking of the Conservatism of Burke, Lord Salisbury, Oakeshott.

Johnson has become the leader of a project – his adviser Dominic Cummings is an important part of this – to destroy Conservatism. This is why during his brief term as prime minister Boris Johnson has attacked parliament, mocked the rule of law, abused the monarchy, and shown a total disregard for the truth....'

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/11/boris-johnson-destroy-britain-conservative-revolutionary-sect?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1576089179

Peter Oborne's Tweet Link:

"Why I as a Conservative will vote for Jeremy Corbyn."

twitter.com/OborneTweets/status/1204834654299344907

Anyone going to link through to the list of 15 ex-Labour MPs who won't vote for Corbyn as he's not fit to be PM, and their reasons for making their decisions.

Or is this a one-sided argument?