How anyone can vote Tory?

[Stella8686]

After seeing some pro labour and pro conservatives posts recently I am genuinely interested to see what makes someone vote conservative

OTHER THAN

1. Hard/ quick Brexit
2. Looking after your own finances
3. Hatred for Labour/ Corbyn

ABIU to not be able to think of any single other reason to vote conservative?

@Moomin8 still at it on all the election threads?

Your beloved Corbyn has about as much chance of winning this election as I do.

If you resign yourself to that and start to accept it, you'll be a lot happier.

Beloved? How silly. For me it's the lesser of various evils. The Tories have done evil things to vulnerable people.

Maybe you @DowntownAbby should come up with a reasonable argument to support your 'views' because I certainly haven't seen any.

Why is it that some Labour supporters and even JC himself think that politics is a class thing in this country? It really isn't . The vast majority of middle management local government/ public sector workers I know are all Labour as opposed to most of the self employed or small business owners.
JC et al dole out the same old trope about the Tories only being interested in helping their rich friends and them being uncaring. This is always said in such an vile way as to suggest all Tories are evil self interested soles with no thought about anyone else - complete rubbish.

I am the mum of two adopted children with server mental disabilities and I can tell you trying to get help for them when labour was in power was terrible. Things have improved, PIP has improved and our teens have more opportunities for work and to go to college.

This labour idea that they should help all students with their loans, give everyone free Wifi and give every WASPI woman compensation is just daft. They call it universality! Well the people that benefit the most to those ideas are the rich and the middle classes.

So Jeremy is 'Jew hating' but Boris' record of racism and Islamophobia, including comparing Muslim women to 'bank robbers' and 'letterboxes' is acceptable.

My reasons for voting Conservative:
Labour’s Economic manifesto.
Anti Semitism in the Labour Party.
Labour’s open door Immigration policy.
I like my local (Tory) mp as he does get involved with local issues.

Why do people have to give you more than 3 reasons? They only need one and they don’t have to tell you that either. And what’s wrong with only looking out for your own interests? Are you looking out for mine when you vote? Do you even care what mine are? I don’t know anyone who goes to a polling station and thinks “well, I was going to vote for the conversations because they offer the best policies for me and my family but they are not the best for Sandra at number 26 so I’ll vote Labour instead”.

I don’t vote Labour because I don’t have a short memory.

All really rubbish reasons for voting Tory. Get a grip. Anti- semetic doesn’t hold up especially as BJ is a racist fuckwit....but does that not count because it’s against black people and not Jews? Not really sure what’s going on here. BJ is also a misogynist and a liar. Tell me how economy doesn’t add up? Tell me how immigration isn’t helping our country and/or how we aren’t all immigrants really?

No 1. Because Corbyn is a fantasist who will bankrupt the country.
No 2. Our local Tory candidate is good.
No 3 I'm so bored of all my labour friends slagging off the Conservatives all over fb and anywhere else that they can, I want no part in their bullying hate campaign.

My Tory MP is very against Trans women in women's sport.
He is a former businessman and farmer so ideal for this area.

Labour don't seem to have anyone who is honest and competent. JC has no understanding of finances - offer huge bribes (compensate the WASPI women, spend billions on the NHS etc with no thought of where this money is going to come from). Diane Abbott is possibly worse, and the unions are in the background pulling the strings. I can see the country going bankrupt if Labour win. Move over Greece...

Oh here we go again! The usual 'tory voters' are all self-centred racist rich and labour supporters are just so caring. It's just pious clap trap. Most people who vote do so out of self interest, including labour voters. For what it's worth I don't support any party and have voted for different parties (I am a remainer but respect the outcome of Brexit), but I am sick to death of people being made to feel ashamed for voting for conservatives. All it does is stifle proper debate and cause greater divide. If anything it pushes people towards the right. And i'm fed up of the piousness. Politics doesn't define a person. In my experience there are two types of person. Those who are kind/caring and those who are not. And I am yet to be convinced that political persuasion changes that.

I’m voting to try and save the NHS and the education system and our services. Is that self-serving? I suppose it is in that I want to benefit from all these things however I also want other folk not to have to think about whether they pay £500 for some pain relief or decide to go without because they can’t afford it.

The NHS will get better with huge cash injection, for a year or two.

And then the money will dry out and then it will go bust because it will be even bigger than now.

Short term boom will bring long term pain. You are not saving anything.

It won't be sold, that's just Labour's favourite scaremongering. It's the sacred cow of British politics and that's not helping it.

Actually the cash investment will be long term and no more selling off to sad old Trump.

It already is being sold...

It won't be long term, because the money will run out.

And then you will have a bloated giant on clay legs and more pressure because the over taxed middle classes won't be able to affords their health insurance anymore and because of rising population.

It's basic economic facts, but I suppose common sense is the first to go when people are indoctrinated.

Odds now 1/20 Conservatives to win.

All this bleating and pleading for people to vote Labour is getting you nowhere.

Just drop it now.

But when it collapses, which it will inevitably do, because of Labour economic ineptitude, then it will be sold off, for nothing.

@Stella8686 you're voting to be poor. They are going to tax us to death.
Where is the money tree? How are things going to be paid for?
Turkey voting for Christmas.

I haven’t noticed any “bleating and pleading” for anything. Obviously it’s highly inconvenient when facts are provided that get in the way of Tory dogma but it’s important that people know when they’re being lied to.

Thornhill58 there’s a fully costed out manifesto if you care to read it...and honestly are people still saying ‘where’s the money tree?’ 😂

If it collapses it is because Tories have run it into the ground and will continue to do so by cutting essential services and selling it off piece by piece.

There are no facts Labour supporters are providing. It's all drama, emotional blackmail and aggressive accusation.

Hardly over-taxes compared to lots of countries, especially (funnily enough) those that have brilliant healthcare and education systems. Hmm. Wonder why that is?

I can give you facts. Personal facts as I work in healthcare and have seen it crumbling from the inside.