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How anyone can vote Tory?

537 replies

Stella8686 · 28/11/2019 23:40

After seeing some pro labour and pro conservatives posts recently I am genuinely interested to see what makes someone vote conservative

OTHER THAN

  1. Hard/ quick Brexit
  2. Looking after your own finances
  3. Hatred for Labour/ Corbyn

ABIU to not be able to think of any single other reason to vote conservative?

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Stella8686 · 29/11/2019 00:22

I thought that about brexit and trump!who knows how modern politics will go

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AutumnRose1 · 29/11/2019 00:23

“ So it's not your money for your pubic services too? ”

Classic typo Grin

CallmeAngelina · 29/11/2019 00:27

Well, it's none of your business who the hell I vote for, although I would ask you the same question, flipped: how can anyone vote Labour?

steff13 · 29/11/2019 00:29

You're not surprised that people don't want to justify their vote to you? You shouldn't be. They don't have to. 🤷

MrsToothyBitch · 29/11/2019 00:36

I managed it this evening. Sent off my postal vote. Have yet to sprout horns & cloven hooves & the letter box didn't burst into flames.

Alsohuman · 29/11/2019 00:37

I think Labour will win and it makes me feel uneasy

I think you’re in a very tiny group on that one. I don’t think even Corbyn thinks that. I’ll settle for a hung Parliament.

scaryteacher · 29/11/2019 00:40

I'll bite as I have insomnia.
Defence
Security
Brexit

Also
I'll vote Tory becuase
Laydee Nugee (aka Emily Thornberry)
Diane Abbott
Rebecca Long-Bailry
Corbyn
McDonnell
Starmer
Milne
Momentum

Nicosia78 · 29/11/2019 00:50

I think Corbynomics will do far more long-term damage to the U.K. than Brexit will (and I voted Remain).

I’m in a Lib Dem-Labour marginal so will vote Lib Dem, but if I was in a Tory-Labour marginal I would vote Tory.

midnightmisssuki · 29/11/2019 00:54

Jesus fucking Christ - how many of these are there going to be? We get it, you loathe the tories. Anyone who votes for them are horrid human beings who just care about themselves. We’ve heard it a thousand million trillion times OP. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

TheMidasTouch · 29/11/2019 00:58

What's your AIBU? If you don't have one why don't you put this in the Politics section?

Velveteenfruitbowl · 29/11/2019 01:00

You forgot smaller government (although you’d be voting against large rather than for smaller in that instance).

You also have to consider that many people wouldn’t identify with your list. Literally the only thing I care about on that list is brexit (and even then a tiny bit). The rest doesn’t really effect me enough for me to care beyond in a general what’s in the best interests of the country kind of way in which it becomes a balancing exercise and not at all a priority.

Redshoeblueshoe · 29/11/2019 01:01

I live in a very safe Labour seat.
I thought my MP was great, but apparently she thinks women in sports should just try harder, so she can fuck right off.

So no Just Fuck right off
Girls first.
That's it.

Velveteenfruitbowl · 29/11/2019 01:01

Oh and obviously not having complete economic collapse but that might fall under your anti Corbyn category.

Mintjulia · 29/11/2019 01:03

Judging by the polls, a fair number of the voting population don’t find it hard Maybe because they want to work hard, do their jobs and raise their families as best they can,
The great thing about secret ballots is trying to shame or bully people doesn’t work.
Why don’t you leave people alone to make their own decisions.

OhTheRoses · 29/11/2019 01:18

The economy
The economy
The economy

Because I remember the 1970s, have Jewish antecedents, and don't trust a communist. And what others have said about taking ballit paper, lifting pencil and marking a cross.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 29/11/2019 07:22

Oh dear you would hate me OP.! I vote Conservative.My mum and dad and grandparents are/were traditional labour supporters.think miners think low skilled,low paid poorly educated.We endured the miners strike way back and lived through the Thatcher years.Their parents always voted labour too cos that is what the working classes did.They never even thought to vote for anyone else.It was unions and proud to be labour.Generation after generation voted the same because they were told /expected to do so.Tory for the rich Labour for anyone else and lib dems for the fence sitters who couldnt decide! I never thought like that.I didnt see why I couldnt vote for the party that made the most sense to me.My mum is 70 this year and for the last 2 elections has voted Tory because even she cannot stomach Labour policy any more and this is a person who her whole life has been conditioned and told sheis typical Labour.The world is a very different place now.I vote Conservative because over all their policies reflect my beliefs. I am not rich, I am not even wealthy and I dont have a fancy gaff and anything else you would think of a traditional tory voter.But on balance I think the Tory policies are more on a level with my aspirations.Politics is a selfish thing and it is down to personal choice....there is no right or wrong way to vote.Labour I find in no way represents my values thats all ...if they did I would vote for them but they don;t.I do think Labour is a more inclusive caring party but it takes more than that to run a country.Hard decisions have to be made and whilst the tories are looked upon as mean the decisions still need to be made and applied.I believe strongly that the years of austerity had to happen to get this country back on track and its been bloody hard for everyone me included but it was necessary.Someone had to do it and with valid reasoning.

Comradesally · 29/11/2019 07:27

We are about to get brexit sorted and with a deal. The last thing I want is to drag it all out again, more arguing, more procrastination, law suits, court cases.... Business suffering in the indecision... No!!

Sorrynotsorry40 · 29/11/2019 07:39

Funny isn't it how most people cannot give a reason to vote Tory, just attack op for her post. You only have to look at Boris Johnson to have a reason not to vote for them complete buffoon so out of touch it's unreal!! Low income families living in povety, vulnerable people dying because there benefits have been stopped, child povety there's another few reasons. The only people voting Tory are the privileged twats who think it won't affect me so I don't care!!

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 29/11/2019 07:50

I am not a privileged twat...my husband works 12 hr nights in a factory and I work part time in a kitchen.I have been a cleaner too getting up at 4 am to scrap shit off toilets for minimum wages...It never mattered I got off my arse and did it. Yet for the outlook of our country and my belief that conservative values are the way forward not boom and bust labour values I vote Conservative.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 29/11/2019 07:53

Surely looking after yourself and your family is the number one thing you consider when deciding who you vote for?

I personally think Labour will drive us all into poverty. Their ideas of equality are fine in principle, and taxing high earners more (although completely unreasonable) I can kind of understand. But they want us all to earn pretty much the same amount in the long run. How is that feasible? Who pays the high tax rates then? Why would anyone bother to train for 7 years as a doctor when they can earn the same working in Maccies?

They want to borrow £1trillion. We will forever be in debt to other countries. So what happens when Saudi Arabia says 'you have to fight on our side in this war because you owe us' because we can't afford to pay them back?

They're constantly lying about money within the NHS.

Anti-semitism isn't ok.

Corbyn won't tell us which way he feels about Brexit, so how can we possibly believe that when he goes to the EU to negotiate a new deal, he won't just negotiate a deal shit enough that we choose to remain because we'd actually be better off?
If he said he wanted to leave, but was still willing to offer remain in a second referendum, I could kind of get on board, but I don't trust him.

LookingforBakedAlaska · 29/11/2019 08:02

Corbyn has admitted on camera that he will almost certainly have to borrow money to realise his crazy dreams. So it will not be ‘our’ money in the form of taxes. We will be in hoc to goodness knows who for forever and a day (or until we eventually get a Conservative govt who will be forced into adopting further austerity measures, perpetuating the boom and bust cycles) ...will voters never learn?

frillyfarmer · 29/11/2019 08:02

I'm voting for the Tories predominantly because of their robust agricultural policies - Labour's agricultural policy, considering we are an island nation with food security issues is just utterly fucking terrifying.

It always slips down the order behind the NHS, Brexit etc but actually ensuring that our agriculture is safe and we all get fed going forwards is surprisingly at the top of my agenda.

Sorrynotsorry40 · 29/11/2019 08:08

Yes most people get off there arse and do it but scrape by each month with the help of food banks and if this isn't the case for you that's my point your ok so others don't matter!!

CallmeAngelina · 29/11/2019 08:08

Re: Brexit, it's laughable that Corbyn seriously expects us to believe that he will swan over to Brussels and negotiate us a sensible deal! Yes of course, it's as simple as that. Where has be BEEN the last three years? The EU don't want us to leave; they are NEVER going to give us a good deal. And if all those other politicians who've been trying hard so far have failed, what makes him think that he'll manage it 'just like that?' And he can't even tell us what this "sensible deal" that he's going to sort out is.
Deluded idiot.
Unfortunately I think he's also a dangerous deluded idiot.

Scotinthenorth · 29/11/2019 08:11

How can anyone vote Corbyn, is what I want to know?

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