How anyone can vote Tory?

[Stella8686]

After seeing some pro labour and pro conservatives posts recently I am genuinely interested to see what makes someone vote conservative

OTHER THAN

1. Hard/ quick Brexit
2. Looking after your own finances
3. Hatred for Labour/ Corbyn

ABIU to not be able to think of any single other reason to vote conservative?

I can understand rich or even comfortably off people voting Conservative out of self-interest.

What puzzle me are working class tories, such delusion.

Sadly the plebs always love a toff.

I vote conservative because my political views are right of centre and I have no interest in engaging with the ridiculous notion that that is anything to hide. I believe that the harder you work the more money you have. I believe that the number of people having children that they can't afford to support exceeds the amount of money payable in benefits. No government could solve that. I believe that the nhs wasn't designed to cope with current demands and that certain services should have a means tested charge at point of contact. And I say that as an exhausted healthcare professional married to another nhs employee, joint income around national average, 2 children at state schools.

I believe that the nhs wasn't designed to cope with current demands and that certain services should have a means tested charge at point of contact

Well said Diemme. I also agree that the vitriol and demonization of people because they vote Conservative is tedious and often extremely infantile.

What puzzle me are working class tories, such delusion

Well then, until you ask them, accept their answer and match their political ideals, you must remain puzzled..........and in opposition.

That's all it comes down to. Political parties present themselves and their manifestos to the public, and the public says Yes please or No thanks. It's "This is who we are and what we aspire to give you - take it or leave it"

If Labour don't win the GE it can only be because they don't want what you have to offer.

Oh I meant to add, as long as you think they are merely "deluded", you will get nowhere.

I’m not voting for any of your three reasons. I feel they are best for the next generation and want my children to have a world where work is the norm and people live within their means. Less environmental waste, taxes can go towards other things than enabling people’s choices and personal responsibility would be the norm.

A more valid question would be how can anyone vote for Corbyn.

I’m a floating voter but will vote Tory this time because I’d rather not see our economy destroyed alongside our welfare system when there is no money left to pay for anything

I know this is a couple of weeks out of date, but this sort of sums up the problem for Labour at the moment. It is, unfortunately, all about the B word. Labour are desperately trying to ‘avoid’ talking about their position to Labour Leave voters, but Boris keeps bringing it back up.

Despite what middle class Remain voters believe, Leave voters aren’t all thick and deaf. They know precisely what Remain voters think of them and they know exactly what the difference is between Labour’s ‘credible Leave option’ and Remain (ie, none).

This may just cost Labour the election. Maybe that’s why JC was so resistant to the idea of a People’s Vote.

Despite what middle class Remain voters believe, Leave voters aren’t all thick and deaf. They know precisely what Remain voters think of them and they know exactly what the difference is between Labour’s ‘credible Leave option’ and Remain (ie, none)

The North West, North East, West Midlands and Wales all voted Leave. Maybe it is this demographic which will decide the outcome

But austerity HAD to happen in no small part because of disaster the Labour Party left the country in after their previous terms

Oh, that old chestnut again.

Does anyone remember how the House of Lords voted down the tax credit cut proposals? And the reason why was because they says it wasn't acceptable to have them alongside tax breaks for the rich.

So tell me again, was austerity actually necessary because it seems to me it was ideological only.

I think anyone who watched Corbyn with Andrew Neil has the answer .He cant run a budget , will find 58 billion pounds from reserves he has not got and thinks the uk has very rich or very poor. Life is not that black and white and I prefer the current economy with the highest rate of employment we have had for years . And I was from a working class family and I have voted for all three parties in the past . I don't mind paying more tax as long as the money does not get wasted and I do appreciate that austerity does need to end and the NHS is far from perfect. But I also don't believe in throwing billions into this without even adding up where it will come from . its a recipe for disaster .

Very easily. The Conservatives won’t raise taxes by 83 billion a year, nor will they nationalise half the economy, nor are they a cult of cranks like the Labour Party!

Maybe people who are actively involved in countryside management? Raising birds, protecting habitats, making sure predator numbers don’t overtake. No choice then.

If working-class Conservative voters are 'deluded' then so are the numerous Labour champagne socialists who imagine that with enough virtue-signalling, no actual money or real working-class people's opinions will be required.

How can you vote Tory?

My understanding is that you can vote Tory by put an X in the box on your ballot paper next to the candidate from the Conservative Party.

I believe a similar procedure exists for other parties.

What puzzle me are working class tories, such delusion

Sadly the plebs always love a toff

Ah the liberal elite.

The 3 reasons you've given
The economy
The NHS. (If the economy collapses, which I genuinely think it would under Corbyn, the NHS will suffer even more)
To prevent sturgeon getting another referendum on Scottish independence.
Boris is Boris. Can't defend him. But Corbyn strikes me as a nasty vindictive little man.

I can't bring myself to vote Tory, not while a tactical vote for the lib Dems might help to keep Corbyn out of power.

I'm voting labour

Simply because i don't trust Corbyn to do anything more than plunge the country further into debt as so many of his well-meaning but fiscally reprehensible colleagues did to previous generations. Never mind the myriad of other reasons he's a dislikeable weasel.
Admittedly no-one in the conservatives has anything likeable about them either but the choice as i see it is between two evils and i believe blue is better for the short term (then red once Corbyn has been replaced by someone more centrist).

@Moomin8 I don't vote Tory because I think you have to vote for them to be aspirational, and if you're with a man who believes that that's your problem.

I have multiple friends and relatives with disabilities who are voting Tory so jokes on you.

@Stella8686

3. Every vote I've ever participated in (I'm 33) has gone the other way!

That probably means you're doing it wrong

I'd rather have all my finger and toe nails removed using pliers, and without anesthetic, than vote Tory. They do not represent me in any way. I loathe them.

I’m in LD/lab marginal. Will vote LD but surprisingly share of OPs opinions - ie need SLOW change and to get out of brexit mess. I think LDs revere sent that a bit better than labour, but I’d do tactical voting to keep tories out. Tories spending plans seem nuts too - and unrealistic.

Represent not revere sent

I have multiple friends and relatives with disabilities who are voting Tory so jokes on you.

Not really. The jokes on them.... sadly