To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

[PleaseDontLaugh]

To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

@Mistlewoeandwhine , "just vote Labour " is pretty ridiculous with Corbyn in charge. The kindest thing I can say about him is that he demonstrably has terrible judgment. Why pick a useless article over a feckless shit.
We all deserve better.

Labour ARE the best option for ordinary people. It still benefits you to vote Labour unless you are a Russian billionaire.

I can’t just vote Labour 🙄 Nationalising everything has a huge effect on our economy, probably more than Brexit and then in the news today Labour to change Election Strategy, I wish Labour would stick to a strategy, explain it and then I know what i’m voting for.

ShatnersWig

Jess Phillips Oct 2019
'there is an argument in saying that politicians can never ever deliver “all those things that you’re pretending you can deliver” in their party manifestos.'

"Labour ARE the best option for ordinary people. It still benefits you to vote Labour unless you are a Russian billionaire."

Not so easy to say this if you are Jewish and have had to endure Labour's version of a hostile environment.

Gin96 Other countries do it and manage just fine. Train fares in the UK are eyewateringly expensive because of privatisation. In Ireland (for example) the railways are publically owned and train fares are a fraction of what they cost in the UK, and this is a country where the cost of living is higher than the UK.

Nah. Still voting Labour. What's with all the pro-Tory posts on here all of a sudden?

@bellinisurge I'm Jewish. I'm not voting for the fucking Tories. Their track record on anti-Semitism isn't great either - didn't one of them get suspended for anti-Semitism the other day? And JRM repeats Soros conspiracy theories.

My choices are:
Corbyn
Bojo the clown
Lib Dem’s
Brexit party
The Yorkshire party

The Yorkshire party is a wasted vote. I usually hate people saying that but they haven’t done an ounce of campaigning in my area and last election I think they got 50 votes.

I haven’t forgiven the Lib Dem’s for 2010.

I wouldn’t vote Tory unless someone held me at gunpoint. I actually value the NHS and our education system.

I’m a remainer so obvs not going to vote for Farage.

Corbyn is my best choice.

My Father is Jewish, he is voting Labour. Voting for Bojo isn’t an option if you are not white. Research his racist comments.

@Sakura7 I know other countries do it, i’m not against it i just want someone to explain how, the timescales, the round about cost, how it will effect our agreement with the EU. Other countries have not suddenly gone from private to nationalising. Please explain how it will work and I will happily vote Labour. Just free broad band alone will cost a fortune as other companies our negotiating for this business with BT at the moment.

Re nationalising the trains, the East Coast line was nationalised after the private company made such a hash of it. While it was in public hands, it improved immensely, and even turned a profit, so then the Govt sold it off again!

Also, it doesn't seem very efficient to have the rail system owned by lots of different companies, and then the tracks owned by yet another one.

I am still not decided, I will probably decide on the 12th 😊 Please help me make my mind up

If you don't know by now Gin, you may as well just guess.

i think I might not vote

Please do some research and vote whichever way you think you want the country to go for the next five years. This election is the most important for decades. It’s a tired old line but women literally died so we can vote, please don’t dishonour them by not using the right they fought for so hard.

And most of all children. Poor children don't exist to the tories. Their two child limit and benefit cap, freeze, changes, etc, plummeting innocent children into poverty and suffering.

Poor children exist to the Tories, they just don't give a shit because it's all the fault of the 'feckless parents'.

People saying they won't vote - how could you? I find it unbelievable that people just don't give a shit about how the country is run. I hope you never complain about it because if you choose not to vote you are choosing to accept whatever happens. It makes me so angry when people won't engage with the democratic process that was fought so hard for.

I was talking to somebody overseas a few months ago about democracy, their comment of "We have a democracy as long as we vote for who we are expected to" spoke volumes. We are very lucky to have the freedom to vote how we choose so everybody should get out there and do it even if I don't agree who they are voting for.

I'm still not decided. Not Cons obvs.

I think I will hold my (jewish) nose and vote Labour. The tactical voting sites tell me they are the only chance of defeating the incumbent Tory arsehole.

Please show me links on how Labour will nationilise so many companies at the same time, show me how it will work, I want to vote Labour but I need answers first?

I’m still voting Labour, and so is everyone I know l 🤷🏻‍♀️It’s going to take a hell of a lot more than one bad interview for me to be swayed. And even if I was, I would still never ever ever vote Tory.

@Gin96, you need to do your own research. You can use Google just as well as we can.

Please show me links on how Labour will nationilise so many companies at the same time, show me how it will work, I want to vote Labour but I need answers first?

Here's about the kindest legitimate critique you'll find in the FT, which has been weirdly overrun by socialists as of late, hardly a Johnson mouthpiece.

Others are much more scathing.

www.ft.com/content/0470ad62-f623-11e7-88f7-5465a6ce1a00

I can’t find anything, no answers at all, no time frame, is it over 2, 5 or 20 years? How will it affect the agreement with the EU? Cost, BT alone could cost over £100 million?

Might be a useful article Gin
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-26/corbyn-s-u-k-spending-blitz-wins-backing-from-economists

Ultimately I think it's more important to consider your own values and how they align with each party, rather than basing a decision purely on a manifesto. Historically, all of the parties have had policies in their election manifestos that they haven't been able to deliver on. During the campaigns they'll say they're achievable, and their opponents will seek to pick holes in them. But manifestos give an idea of the party's values and a vision of the type of country they want to run.

If you believe in small government, low taxes, minimal public spending and Brexit, vote Tory.

If you believe in paying a bit more tax so that public services such as the NHS and police force can be better funded, vote Labour.

If you're a Remainer, vote tactically for whichever of Labour/Lib Dem/SNP is most likely to keep the Tory out in your constituency.

Please do your research and make an informed decision, bearing in mind that no option will be perfect. It's a judgement call.

The CBI, which all the leftist Remainers love, has said 200 billion. It's hard to say. Probably in this neighbourhood.

There's also the very sticky matter of who decides how much shareholders get. Invariably, they're going to get below the market rate i.e. confiscation of assets.

Please read the FT article, it's useful for context.